An argument over Christmas gifts turned deadly in Florida after a 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister.

A 14-year-old boy allegedly fatally shot his older sister in Florida after a family argument over Christmas presents, officials said Tuesday.

The teen had been out shopping on Christmas Eve with Abrielle Baldwin, his 23-year-old sister, as well as his mother, 15-year-old brother and sister’s children, Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said during a news conference.

The teenage brothers got into an argument about who was getting more Christmas presents.

“They had this family spat about who was getting what and what money was being spent on who, and they were having this big thing going on in this store,” Gualtieri said.

  • Hackerman_uwu@lemmy.world
    43·
    11 months ago

    I’m pretty gullible and I believe a lot of stuff. So I’m asking this sincerely.

    Are you saying that in America people are tapping their widow with a Glock and giving you the stink eye to get into your lane? Like, instead of indicating and then waiting for a safe gap?

    • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
      35·
      11 months ago

      America is pretty big, and that isn’t something that happens where I live (Seattle)

      But there are parts of this country where a surprisingly large percentage of people are completely fucking insane and peacock with weapons in reckless ways. It also isn’t unusual for children to have guns, even if it isn’t legal.

      There’s a high school in rural Colorado that has given up on doing anything about guns in their high school because something like 30% of students are armed on any given day.

      I grew up in Tennessee, and students were allowed to store guns in their cars parked in the high school parking lot.

      I have met many people who open-carry and then openly emphasize it to others because they want to be intimidating. It’s a part of their identity, and they will let you know in inappropriate ways.

      This country is weird. I’m happy to live in a less violent part of it.

        • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
          21·
          11 months ago

          Found the Fox News watcher.

          Protip: The CHOP/CHAZ was a 3-week protest that closed a single neighborhood intersection, and ended over 3 years ago. The only people who think that it is an example of how dangerous Seattle is are people who watch right-wing news and have never set foot in Seattle…

          Fox News literally reported on it as if it were another country. They referred to it as if it as the “US/CHAZ border”, and overreported about it like it was the story of the century. Spoiler: they just hate progressive cities like Seattle, and were willing to say anything that would arouse their boomer viewership.

          It was basically an unauthorized block party created to stimulate an extended 2020 BLM protest.

          Yes, there was some violence, but at such a small scale it had zero effect on the city’s already low violent crime rate.

          But keep going about how racial justice protests make you feel unsafe…

          • SupraMario@lemmy.world
            1·
            11 months ago

            Lol people died but naaaa it’s cool it was just a small problem.

            https://www.axios.com/local/seattle/2023/11/08/washington-crime-rate-up-statistics-chart

            It might have been a low crime city 30 years ago but it’s not anymore.

            Also hilariously funny how you instantly think I’m a right wing repub. Keep thinking that while you argue with someone who is pro-choice, wants single payer, wants the war on drugs to end and qualified immunity repealed and also marched with the protestors during the BLM movement…but sure…keep putting your head in the sand.

            • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
              2·
              11 months ago

              If you find it frustrating that people think you’re a right winger, consider not talking like one.

              • SupraMario@lemmy.world
                1·
                11 months ago

                Yes because right wingers want all the stuff I’ve just stated…have you wondered why the Republican party still exists? It’s not because the Dems are fantastic… it’s because they won’t leave the damn guns alone. You tear that one last thing from the repubs and it’s a dem win for decades.

        • bricklove@midwest.socialEnglish
          6·
          11 months ago

          The George Floyd protests were outliers and the bigger picture shows that Tennessee is one of the most violent states in the country: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_violent_crime_rate.

          Even if you look at homicides per county, violence in TN is pretty widespread: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate

          Granted, Washington state’s homicides look fairly evenly distributed there but the worst areas are outside of Seattle. Also, based on your description of TN I’d expect it to look like Illinois where most homicides occurs in specific areas of Chicago

          • SupraMario@lemmy.world
            1·
            11 months ago

            Memphis and Nashville… that’s where the gangs are and where the majority of the violence is. This isn’t an unknown thing. Both counties that hold those cities are have a high murder rate. This goes for basically all large cities, it shouldn’t be a surprise.

            • BreakDecks@lemmy.mlEnglish
              2·
              11 months ago

              Funny how Seattle is dangerous because of BLM, and Tennessee is dangerous because of Memphis (majority Black city), and “gangs”.

              I definitely see a pattern with what you consider dangerous…

              • SupraMario@lemmy.world
                1·
                11 months ago

                O nooo the white privileged white guy is pointing out that only black people are in gangs…the fuck is wrong with you? Can’t refute points…run to the defense of calling someone a racist. Get a grip child.

        • stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml
          2·
          11 months ago

          I literally lived in the CHOP. My apartment was where it was founded. Just stop, other than the police abusing people and paramedics allowing people to die, nothing at all happened.

      • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        11 months ago

        I live in Texas and see people strapped pretty often, but they usually aren’t like waving it around or anything.

      • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
        3·
        11 months ago

        I wouldn’t be so sure. I saw someone pull a gun at a fast-food drivethrough because there was a disagreement about whether the dude ordered french fries. And you’re literally responding to an article about a kid killing his sister with a gun over presents. What makes it so unbelievable to you?

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          11 months ago

          I’m not doubting guns have been used in road rage incidents before, I’m doubting he’s seen it 6 times since the pandemic.

          And I’m doubting the effectiveness over a blinker because tbh I’m not making eye contact with other drivers at 75mph, I’m a little busy, so I won’t even see the gun like I would “the flashing light called a turn signal.”

          • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
            1·
            11 months ago

            He wasn’t saying it was effective. And typically on freeways and interstates, the speed differential between cars, which are also all moving in the same direction, makes it much easier to make eye contact and see individuals in their cars.

            The lack of a large speed differential is also one of the reasons assisted driving systems are most effective on interstates, freeways, and highways.

            • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              1·
              11 months ago

              He wasn’t saying it was effective.

              He indicated their success by neglecting to use the word “try.”

              And typically on freeways and interstates, the speed differential between cars, which are also all moving in the same direction, makes it much easier to make eye contact and see individuals in their cars.

              Keep your eyes on the road man, you’re going to get in an accident.

              The lack of a large speed differential is also one of the reasons assisted driving systems are most effective on interstates, freeways, and highways.

              Do they brake for armed motorists?

    • stolid_agnostic@lemmy.ml
      6·
      11 months ago

      I think it is generally unlikely but am also sure that there are places where this is part of the culture.

      In Florida you’re allowed to use lethal force if you justifiably believe that your safety is threatened. When lockdown first started, there was a video of a dude having a meltdown at a Costco because he had to wear a mask. The person at the door was a woman of 65-70 and the man child pumped up his chest and yelled “I feel threatened” at her, which I learned in Florida for threatening to murder someone over an inconvenience.