False and misleading posts about the Ukraine conflict continue to go viral on major social media platforms, as Russia’s invasion of the country extends beyond 500 days.

      • MercuryUprising@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        14
        ·
        1 year ago

        Almost guaranteed to be trolls, paid or of the useful idiot variety. I’ve seen them for the last week or so, as Lemmy got big enough to be on their radar now.

        Here’s a rundown on how paid trolls operate. They have quotas of thousands of posts per day each:
        https://www.businessinsider.com/russian-troll-slayer-went-undercover-at-a-troll-factory-2019-3?IR=T

        You may have noticed some familiar names in the article. It’s also worth mentioning that China’s 50 cent army is estimated at making 400 million+ posts per year, and that Harvard estimate was from something like 2016. Common sense solution, if it smells like a rat, treat it like a rat until proven otherwise.

        • paciencia@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          please stop using this stupid and derogatory term. There are many kinds of leftists that try to make a nuanced analysis of past socialist experiments. While I consider myself a leftist who takes kindly to socialist countries past trials and tribulations, I for one can’t fathom why so many marxists choose to support a reactionary regime that frequently flirts with fascism. Still, the word “tankie” is just a strawman that liberals use to shame leftists that dare to conduct real analysis of socialist history. It has lost all meaning and nowadays stands as the liberal version of “woke”.

          • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago
            • im not a liberal
            • im clearly not using ‘tankie’ to shame leftists that dare to conduct real analyses of socialist history, im clearly using it to shame leftists who choose to support a reactionary regime that frequently flirts with fascism
            • it has plenty of meaning, thats why you felt the need to talk about not understanding many Marxists’ support of a reactionary regime that frequently flirts with fascism
            • no
            • paciencia@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              okay we might agree with most stuff but c’mon u know that silly libs always use that term to shut up discourse on marxist’s perspectives. we might be in the know but it’s confusing to most people

      • ghariksforge@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Those of us who don’t live in the western world take a different view of world events. It does not make us trolls.

    • ghariksforge@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      For example, when the NordStream exploded, we were told that Russia did it. It was considered disinformation by the western authorities to question this. It turned out a year later it was a group of Ukrainians.

      • HeartyBeast@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        18
        ·
        1 year ago

        Why are you just making things up and spreading misinformation?

        Here is the original BBC News coverage from the time (unedited, you can check on the Wayback machine).

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63297085

        Western leaders have stopped short of directly accusing Russia but the EU has previously accused Russia of using its gas supplies as a weapon against the West over its support for Ukraine.

        Meanwhile UKrainian involvement you cite as a fact, is from a NY Times article quoting US intelliegence sources. It’s possibly true but has never been stood-up

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-64877979

        • ghariksforge@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          German government knew that Ukrainians blew it up.

          Western media pushed the narrative that Russia blew up NordStream because it fit their prejudices.

          Here’s misinformation for you.

          • HeartyBeast@kbin.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            14
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            Fronm anyone interested in the sources, that screenshot is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Nord_Stream_pipeline_sabotage

            It does not support the fact that the factthe “German government knew” anything - rather that there was a police investigation into evidence. Once again “Western Media” is a broad brush, but the coverage I see at the time certainly explored the idea that the Russians may have destoyed the pipeline as one possibility - at the same time point out that there was uncertainty. This is not “pushing a narrative” particularly - it’s trying to explain a mystery.

            As a wise person once said: “things are usually not as black and white. People who complain about misinformation/disinformation are usually guilty of it themselves.”