Depends on your POV. My phone is more powerful than the first computers I’ve had.
Thanks to Apple everyone has to take arm processors seriously, since M1 it’s not the “efficient, but shitty” processor, everyone needs to support it.
Phones are slowly getting there. Sure, we’re not seeing 4070 GPU equivalent in the near future. But most people’s computers are really shitty as well, including the low-end gaming computers.
Phones have already replaced PCs for lots of people. 20 years ago almost every household had a desktop but 95% of what was completed on it can now be achieved with a phone, to the extent that plenty of houses don’t even bother with a computer any more.
Eventually the technology gets to a point where it can fill that slot for gaming too, it’ll never replace all of it and specialist equipment will always exist obviously. Most people don’t need to be at the peak of tech though (or even near it) and we already see lots of gaming households who just play switch, which is far below modern capabilities of games.
A phone doesn’t need to be competitive with modern PCs to become a strong option for gaming, the overall technology just needs to get far enough that most don’t notice the improvements you get from specialist equipment like gaming rigs.
It’s the gaming equivalent of earbuds vs a proper sound system. People will always exist that are enthusiasts and can hear the difference, but most of us are happy with a convenient pair of buds to listen to music and podcasts with.
I’m not trying to defend anyone bud I’m just making the points as I see them. How does my comment go against their argument though? PCs have been getting phased out for decades and that’ll continue.
Of course PCs will always be more powerful, but mobiles only need to be powerful ENOUGH (just like the very successful Switch console). I’m saying that eventually both mobiles and PCs will be powerful enough to play games at a quality most will accept, and only the hardcore will feel the need to get the absolute top tier experience, just like audiophiles do already.
Board games once outperformed the entire video games market too, things do change though.
Perfectly happy to admit the worlds best PC will always outstrip the worlds best phone, just like the world best earbuds will never outperform the world’s best speakers, but that’s not relevant to my point at all :) x
I’m not talking about the next 5 or 10 years either mate, I’m talking about 20 or 50 years, assuming society still exists.
And FYI, mobile gaming outstrips PC gaming by revenue already (PC and console combined in fact), you can expect to see it grow (whether for the right or wrong reasons) down the years as the tech allows for more actual “true gaming” options on phones that can be exploited by the corps.
I was making my point in the context of the thread mate. I.e. Will PCs dominate gaming in future? If your only point was that computers are more powerful than mobiles why not make that your response to my first comment? I thought this was a discussion about whether PCs will continue to be as relevant in gaming as they are today, and I don’t think they will.
I guess my point isnt that your original point is wrong, it’s more that it’s not particularly relevant in this instance. And the PoV of the user is far more important (as evidenced by all those switch only gamers).
LOL their entire point was that PCs were popular because “everyone has one”.
Who’s entire point was that…? Because I just read every parent comment to this and it’s not mentioned once, the only point I’m making is that I expect the majority of gaming to be done on mobile in the eventual future.
The world’s best phone will be “outstripped” by a basic desktop costing half the price. Always. Simple physics.
This may be true today, but as PCs become only specialist equipment those basic machines will get rarer and rarer. It also doesn’t matter if the smartphone is capable of playing AAA games at a comparable quality.
Slightly amused by the point you make about mobile/switch revenues… How is it that you can argue the PCs win vs switch because they earn more money, then in the next breath ignore the fact that mobile does that against all other gaming combined?
You’re very welcome, although not actually an insult, again I’m just making the point as I see it. This one being that you appear to be an actual child.
I consider failure to make a coherent point an actual failure, so thanks for that :) x
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It’s the same issue with vr. Everything is converging on the quest because it’s easier and cheaper
What? VR has been almost completely stagnant and frankly dying since Alyx. There’s no convergence when there is zero progress overall.
Depends on your POV. My phone is more powerful than the first computers I’ve had.
Thanks to Apple everyone has to take arm processors seriously, since M1 it’s not the “efficient, but shitty” processor, everyone needs to support it.
Phones are slowly getting there. Sure, we’re not seeing 4070 GPU equivalent in the near future. But most people’s computers are really shitty as well, including the low-end gaming computers.
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It really does…
Phones have already replaced PCs for lots of people. 20 years ago almost every household had a desktop but 95% of what was completed on it can now be achieved with a phone, to the extent that plenty of houses don’t even bother with a computer any more.
Eventually the technology gets to a point where it can fill that slot for gaming too, it’ll never replace all of it and specialist equipment will always exist obviously. Most people don’t need to be at the peak of tech though (or even near it) and we already see lots of gaming households who just play switch, which is far below modern capabilities of games.
A phone doesn’t need to be competitive with modern PCs to become a strong option for gaming, the overall technology just needs to get far enough that most don’t notice the improvements you get from specialist equipment like gaming rigs.
It’s the gaming equivalent of earbuds vs a proper sound system. People will always exist that are enthusiasts and can hear the difference, but most of us are happy with a convenient pair of buds to listen to music and podcasts with.
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I’m not trying to defend anyone bud I’m just making the points as I see them. How does my comment go against their argument though? PCs have been getting phased out for decades and that’ll continue.
Of course PCs will always be more powerful, but mobiles only need to be powerful ENOUGH (just like the very successful Switch console). I’m saying that eventually both mobiles and PCs will be powerful enough to play games at a quality most will accept, and only the hardcore will feel the need to get the absolute top tier experience, just like audiophiles do already.
Board games once outperformed the entire video games market too, things do change though.
Perfectly happy to admit the worlds best PC will always outstrip the worlds best phone, just like the world best earbuds will never outperform the world’s best speakers, but that’s not relevant to my point at all :) x
I’m not talking about the next 5 or 10 years either mate, I’m talking about 20 or 50 years, assuming society still exists.
And FYI, mobile gaming outstrips PC gaming by revenue already (PC and console combined in fact), you can expect to see it grow (whether for the right or wrong reasons) down the years as the tech allows for more actual “true gaming” options on phones that can be exploited by the corps.
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I was making my point in the context of the thread mate. I.e. Will PCs dominate gaming in future? If your only point was that computers are more powerful than mobiles why not make that your response to my first comment? I thought this was a discussion about whether PCs will continue to be as relevant in gaming as they are today, and I don’t think they will.
I guess my point isnt that your original point is wrong, it’s more that it’s not particularly relevant in this instance. And the PoV of the user is far more important (as evidenced by all those switch only gamers).
Who’s entire point was that…? Because I just read every parent comment to this and it’s not mentioned once, the only point I’m making is that I expect the majority of gaming to be done on mobile in the eventual future.
This may be true today, but as PCs become only specialist equipment those basic machines will get rarer and rarer. It also doesn’t matter if the smartphone is capable of playing AAA games at a comparable quality.
Slightly amused by the point you make about mobile/switch revenues… How is it that you can argue the PCs win vs switch because they earn more money, then in the next breath ignore the fact that mobile does that against all other gaming combined?
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Yeah, it sure does.
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I mean, after your “comeback”, did you really expect more effort from me?
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That makes one of us, I guess.
I think the last time I heard anyone say this sincerely was in school.
Your lack of comprehension is making a little more sense. Thanks mate :) x
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You’re very welcome, although not actually an insult, again I’m just making the point as I see it. This one being that you appear to be an actual child.
I consider failure to make a coherent point an actual failure, so thanks for that :) x
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