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    For as long as Democrats continue to run lukewarm candidates and Republicans populists with actual support, this will continue to be the case.

    Do you blame the scorpion or the toad for trusting it? It is entirely the Democrats fault that things are as bad as they are.

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      Do you blame the scorpion or the toad for trusting it?

      Victim blaming is bad, blame the scorpion.

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      Do you blame the scorpion or the toad for trusting it?

      … the fucking scorpion. How is that a question?

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      Don’t forget the republicans gerry mandering districts to keep local and federal control.

      I’d also argue about the republicans having actual support. It’s been decades since a republican won the popular vote. They win because of the aforementioned gerry mandering to give them enough of the electoral votes to win. Plus the shit they are pulling locally with their majority where they are passing laws that let them ignore the will of the people even if 90% of people are for something.

      Yes, the dems need to get their shit together but we as a country need to be do and be better. We need to do more of the district lines being drawn by an outside group instead of local interests. We need to get rid of the electoral college and much much more.

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      Until young voters vote in primaries at rates approaching the elderly rates, the Deomcratic party will not be able to run progressive candidates.

      Every progressive Democrat candidate who banked on youth turnout has turned out to have misplaced their faith in our ability to translate internet snark to action.

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        Until young voters vote in primaries at rates approaching the elderly rates, the Deomcratic party will not be able to run progressive candidates.

        So never. Fantastic.

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        Democrats don’t run progressives because progressives are bad for fundraising. The powers that be (the wealth elite) like to be able to rob our coffers at their leisure, so they won’t give money to candidates that might turn off (or even slow down) the tap of our resources.

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          Bernie would have won if the youth had come out to vote at a rate comparable to the elderly.

          It’s easier to blame the elite than to act but it’s not a huge conspiracy it’s simply down to who shows up to the goddamn primaries.

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        Until young voters vote in primaries at rates approaching the elderly rates, the Deomcratic party will not be able to run progressive candidates.

        When all the boomers have died, Democrats will have to come up with a new excuse for opposing progressives.

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          What was progressive now will be seen as obvious. Just the same way as things that are happening now would have been considered progressive for the previous generation.

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      Any attempt by the Democrats to do anything tends to be blocked by the Republicans. Anything more serious starts threatening their party support.

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        The problem is the following loop:

        • With lies, grifting, and general ignorance easier to spread than the complexity of truth, Republicans always hold an inherent advantage by appealing to the lowest common denominator.

        • Democrats make a mistake of trying to appeal to these special “centrists” and conservatives as if resurrecting Reagan himself under the D label would ever pull them over.

        • Because of watering down their policy (and thus effficacy) they ostracize their own grassroots base that does the groundwork in phonebanking, protesting, canvassing, and perhaps most importantly – pushing back against nutjobs on social media and pushing back against their parents, aunts, uncles at Thanksgiving dinner.

        And Democrats wonder why Democrat voter enthusiasm is always so low.

        If Democrats for once campaigned on a platform they believed in; if they actually wholeheartedly backed a candidate who had a science-based, equality-based platform from a position of sincerity – that would be contagious.

        Republicans win by fear and hatred; Democrats can’t win by that. It needs to be surrounded by love, vision, and solidarity.

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          The problem is that we have a country that can support three to five political parties and a voting system that can only support two. So a plurality of people will almost always be unhappy.

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        Any attempt by the Democrats to do anything tends to be blocked by the Republicans.

        If it makes it that far. BBB never came up for a vote. The public option was killed without a single Republican vote.

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      The Democrats spent years giving prolonged benefit of the doubt to the Republicans who used that space to instal their own government via judges. They saw it happening but I’d bet you a million bucks their donors told them not to worry, because guess what, fascism is GREAT for buisness if you’re the one who already has the business.