• @nekandro@lemmy.ml
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    255 months ago

    The IDF is just manufacturing consent for their genocide of Palestinian civilians. The IDF also still needs to decide if Hamas is a conventional army or a terrorist organization.

    • @speaker_hatOP
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      105 months ago

      The IDF is not committing a genocide.

      The IDF aim is to take down Hamas, and not to destroy the Palestinian population (Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israel–Hamas_war)

      The unfortunate truth is that Hamas disguised as Palestinian civilians, and use Palestinian civilians as human shields.

      • @small44@lemmy.world
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        145 months ago

        Under international law, it is a war crime to kill civilians, even under the pretext of a human shield. Israel also uses Palestinians as human shields.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoLEWS5sz4M

        Genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, as such:

        • Killing members of the group:

        Over 20,000 in only three months, not counting deaths from diseases caused by the war, lack of food, and water.

        • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group:

        Bodily harm by the amount of injured people, mentally by the terror caused by bombing people’s houses.

        • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part:

        Cutting water from civilians and Daniel Hagari saying that they aim for destruction and not accuracy

        • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group.
        • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

        The proposal to transfer the Gaza Strip’s 2.3 million people to Egypt’s

        This is definitely genocide

      • @Rooskie91@discuss.online
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        135 months ago

        It’s not that hard to hold three truths in your mind at the same time. What Hamas did was a violation of international law and fucked. Isreal’s response is ouverreaching, targets civilians, violates international law, and is fucked. Antisemitism as a response to Isreal’s actions is a violation of international law and is fucked. We can recognize that what Hamas did was wrong, what Isreal is doing is wrong, and that blaming people of Jewish faith for what Isreal is doing is also wrong. Being on the side of innocent Palestinians is not the same as being antisemitic.

        I don’t understand why every argument has to devolve to baseless sound bites absorbed from media by a half alert brain. We can very clearly see that Isreal and Hamas’s beef is being handled irresponsiblely by both sides and innocent civilians are caught in the middle. Primarily innocent Palestinian civilians demonized in assenine article like this.

        • @speaker_hatOP
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          5 months ago

          Hamas holds, from the beginning of this war, women, children, babies and elderly as hostages in roughly inhuman conditions.

          Hamas put the “ethical” threshold of this war, Hamas deserves the consequences.

      • @ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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        5 months ago

        Israel has already wiped out 10% 1% of the Palestinian population after invading their land. If their aim is to simply take down Hamas, why are they telling refugees to evacuate to ‘X’ and then bombing ‘X’? Why are they bombing refuge camps? Why are they murdering these ‘human shields’ as if they have no other option? Quit with your propagandist bullshit.

        Edit: got my percentage wrong

      • Deceptichum
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        The unfortunate truth is that we’re all seeing with our eyes Israel conduct a campaign of genocide, amongst its other war crimes (abducting children, denying food/water, etc.)

        Israel’s lost its support, now all we can hope for is an international response to stop Israel.

  • @jet@hackertalks.com
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    5 months ago

    It’s the Sun. They’re not trying to be journalists.

    For one thing, nobody who attacks a tank is a coward. That takes fortitude. Because you’re probably going to die. So throwing untrue insults around in the article, is the furthest thing from journalism that you can get

    • @Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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      105 months ago

      Lol yeah, the guy fighting a tank in home territory with no body armor and an RPG is a coward, not the guys in the tanks and aircrafts. Those are brave soldiers. 😂

      • @jet@hackertalks.com
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        75 months ago

        Attacking armor in the occupied city you live in is a hall mark of any modern resistance movement, it’s a good way to get killed - so whatever their motivations are, it’s not cowardace

    • @speaker_hatOP
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      15 months ago

      I don’t agree it’s fortitude, and this article explains exactly the situation.

  • @ShepherdPie@midwest.social
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    195 months ago

    What does this article prove? It shows a guy holding something obscured by a red outline and someone else in different clothing holding a rug then standing next to a tree. This is supposed to be proof of something? If this came from a video then let’s see the video.

    • @speaker_hatOP
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      It proves an evidence that Hamas are disguising themselves as civilians, hence danger civilians to be tagged as possible targets.

      The full video is in the article, please read the article and watch the video before concluding the post.

  • athos77
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    Ooh, Rupert Murdoch trash again! Media bias / fact check for The Sun:

    Overall, we rate The Sun Right Biased based on story selection and political affiliation that favors the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to overly sensationalized headlines and numerous failed fact checks.

    However, they also include this lovely comment in their analysis section:

    In review, The Sun is a classic trashy tabloid that features celebrity gossip, current events, and right-leaning news stories. There is significant use of sensational loaded headlines […]. The paper generally publishes sensationalized, misleading stories with a right-wing bias. Further, a Reuters institute survey found that 13% of respondents trust their news coverage and 64% do not, ranking them last in trust of the major UK news providers.

  • athos77
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    175 months ago

    I don’t think Hamas has an official uniform. I’ll note that, when Hamas wore regular camo,

    Israel’s i24 News and The Sun in the U.K. claimed that “the terrorists wore our uniforms” and “sick Hamas terrorists used IDF uniform disguise.” source

    And now that they have someone in Hamas not wearing camo (I don’t know, does Gaza even have a working laundry at this point), both the Israeli media and The Sun immediately switch to

    Hamas using the civilian population as human shields. Dressed in jeans and a casual grey shirt to look like a civilian

    So basically they’re saying it doesn’t matter how Hamas dresses, whatever they wear is an evil deceitful attempt to mislead the pure upstanding Israelis.

    • @speaker_hatOP
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      15 months ago

      Every army has an official uniform, unless they want to blend with civilians.

      • athos77
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        15 months ago

        Oh, it’s you, bringing up this trash article again. Please go away.

  • Gazumi
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    125 months ago

    The Sun is one of the UKs shitttest newspapers. Reading this kills braincells

  • @Clent@lemmy.world
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    65 months ago

    Since this is Hama territory, this is a guerrilla war so the invaders need to accept their targets may not always be in uniform.

    • @speaker_hatOP
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      15 months ago

      Meaning that targets intentionally make themselves to look like civils.