The White House said Sunday that “it’s the right time” for Israel to scale back its military offensive in the Gaza Strip, as Israeli leaders again vowed to press ahead with their operation against the territory’s ruling Hamas militant group.

The comments exposed the growing differences between the close allies on the 100th day of the war.

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    Hmm… This reminds me of a country that kept a strip of people under a blockade, while calculating the calories they need to stay just above starvation level, and then gave permits to the people of the stripe to work like slaves for them.

    Anyways the hostages aren’t slaves there. They’re bargaining chips, and it seems like one side of this conflict doesn’t value them.

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      Well, that strip of of land is not occupied since 2005, which hasn’t prevented Hamas and the “innocent people of Gaza” from throwing more than 8,000 rockets into civilian towns, while also trying to build tunnels under the border. What would you expect Israel to do? Open the border and just let them in? You’re delusional, ill-informed or you just want Israel gone, in which case you call for a actual genocide.

      Oh, btw, did you know Gaza also borders with Egypt? Ever asked yourself why the Egyptians never opened their borders to their fellow Muslim brothers even though a large percentage of the Gaza population descended from Egyption migrants to the region?

      Also, why wasn’t there any calls for a Palestinian state between 1948-1967?

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          Hamas shouldn’t have governed Gaza, but the other option had to be Fatah and “Israel” had to be a blood thirsty nation for all of it’s existence. Hamas was acting as a charity; making the situation better for Gazans by building hospitals, schools, and mosques. While Fatah was showing off its corruption, and Hamas didn’t even win by that much: Hamas: 44.45% | Fatah: 41.43 %

          Israel left Gaza in 2005, one year later Hamas took over and killed its political opponents, this was followed by an unprovoked daily barrages of missiles towards civilian towns. I don’t know where your claim of Hamas was acting out of charity comes from, and obviously the schools mosques and other charitable activity was all a front for their terrorist activities.

          What do you think should have been the answer to that problem? I think cutting off weapons supply routes is a reasonable course of action. Regarding water, communication and electricity independence - those problems could have been at least partially solved with the billions in aid money that were instead used for terror infrastructure under civilian homes.

          Gaza was supposed to be an example of how a Palestinian state could eventually look like, but they f***ed up, badly.

          “Israel” shouldn’t have existed, and should cease to exist

          “From the river to the sea” style? Your true colors are showing

          All-Palestine. Looks like a call to me

          You didn’t actually read the link you sent, did you? this initiative was a failure, with no real takers from the Arab states. Jordan basically ignored it by annexing the West bank immediately, and Egypt would rather use Gaza to generate more problems for the new Israeli state than confront it directly after the defeat of 1948 (it annexed it later stating its incompetence).

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            I don’t know where your claim of Hamas was acting out of charity comes from

            Social services wing

            What do you think should have been the answer to that problem? I think cutting off weapons supply routes is a reasonable course of action.

            I don’t disagree.

            Regarding water, communication and electricity independence - those problems could have been at least partially solved with the billions in aid money that were instead used for terror infrastructure under civilian homes.

            They were used for welfare too, but not everything can be solved with valueless paper notes.

            “From the river to the sea” style? Your true colors are showing

            I never hid my “true colors”, The nation simply shouldn’t have existed. BTW you’re still not addressing your “innocent people of Gaza” comment, and that’s a pretty ugly shade. So you haven’t unlocked the moral high ground yet.

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          Stating facts deserve downvotes when they’re stated in a way that intentionally misrepresents them, especially when that purpose is justifying genocide.

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            That’s a gross misrepresentation of what I wrote, also, there’s no genocide being done today. On October 7th however…