• democracy1984@lemmy.world
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    I’m not a member of a political party. I vote for candidates, not parties. If you just vote for a specific party, which ever one that may be, that’s lazy. I don’t care if they’re republican or democrat, I care about what they value.

    Also, you can’t really actively kick out member from a party, all you can do is just not vote for them.

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      This is so hilariously uneducated to the current political situation that I really hope you’re arguing in bad faith instead of just that stupid.

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        It doesn’t matter what the political situation is, you should vote for specific candidates, not just blindly vote for your party, whichever one that may be, and then call anyone who doesn’t fully support your party evil.

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          It doesn’t matter what the political situation is

          You seem like an idealist, which I have some respect for, but you also have to account for reality. And the reality is, we don’t really vote for individual candidates anymore. We vote for one party or the other to have an additional vote. Elected politicians hardly ever vote outside of their party anymore. It’s not ideal but it is reality. If you vote for multiple candidates of different political parties, you’re just making noise.

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            And that’s a bad systematic problem. But voting based on the candidate should help to slowly fix it. While there is a very clear difference between democrat and republican, there are still differences between candidates of the same party.

            If you vote only for the candidates that are closest to the center, then candidates will compete to be closer. But if you just vote for a party, then the candidates have to no incentive to compete.

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              And that’s a bad systematic systemic problem. But voting based on the candidate should help to slowly fix it.

              You think a systemic problem can be fixed through the same system that caused it, and has been causing it for half a century?

              If you vote only for the candidates that are closest to the center, then candidates will compete to be closer.

              Wow you really have not been paying attention. LMAO nobody is going to compete to be the most centered candidate right now. It would be nice, but it’s not the reality that we are living in. By all means, if you believe that’s a winning strategy I encourage you to run on such a platform, or back someone who is, and see how far it gets you.

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                You think a systemic problem can be fixed through the same system that caused it, and has been causing it for half a century?

                I think a new system would be better, but there isn’t any realistic way to change it right now.

                nobody is going to compete to be the most centered candidate right now.

                Maybe. But if enough people vote based on how closely centered a candidate is, then the elected officials will be overall more centered.

                Even if the parties have a big split, it’s still better to have both, because it allows them to debate and work to find the best solution, which is almost always in the middle. I also really wish there were 3+ parties, because that would mean that no party had a majority.

                (And for the record, the last time I voted was about 2/3 democrat. I might be more liberal, but I still have some conservative beliefs. And for a lot of things, I’m pretty torn between both sides.)