Hello Wonderful people!

I have a few questions. I mainly want a framework due to the right to repair aspect and the ability to upgrade at future points as needed

I’m getting this for college. Other then coursework I pretty much will only be watching videos, streaming from my jellyfin server, and very light gaming (think Celeste).

I wanted to know if I should go for the i5-1340P or the i7-1360P Framework 13? I doubt I need the processing power so much as I need the battery life. For context my current laptop has a Intel i7-10510U and a 73Wh battery. As for memory and storage, I intend on recycling those from my lemur pro which has 16gb of ram and 1 tb NVME.

My other question is if I should buy the 13 or wait for the 16 in general? I assume I could upgrade the 13 to the 16 specs at any point if I understand this laptop correctly. I want to ensure that I can just buy this and keep upgrading as needed.

  • DudewitbowEnglish
    4•1 year ago

    As for i5 vs i7, performamce wise in your use case, they shouldnt matter much. HOWEVER the new larger battery i think is only included with the i7 model, so you may need to pay more of you want that extra 11% capacity if you get the lower end model.

    On the topic of 13 vs 16, only the addons are interchangeable between the 13 and 16 (that is, the expansion cards, wifi if on the same cpu vendor, ram if you only go with intel etc) the mainboard is not compatible between the two models, as well as anything that is designed around the chasis size (e.g screen)

    We have no info on the battery for the 16, but we assume that it will have a larger battery given that its target audience is for people who want/need more performance.

    • @SentinianOPEnglish
      2•1 year ago

      Alright thank you! I’ll probably just go for the i5 then, the extra 300 isn’t worth for only 11% gain I guess.

      As for the mainboard not being compatible, is this gonna be the standard going forward? if I buy the 13 am I stuck with those specs? That is a huge part of me getting this laptop so that would become a very hard buy if thats the case.

      Edit: oh I might just be stupid is the 13 and 16 just standing for the size of the laptop? which means parts that fit the 13 should be out in the future should I need one.

      • @director@some.instituteEnglish
        2•1 year ago

        With the $300 you save going to the i5, you could buy a USB-C power bank that’ll hold more than 11% of a charge and also work on your phone, tablet, or Nintendo Switch.

      • DudewitbowEnglish
        2•1 year ago

        You can buy the improved battery separately, its just mot included with the i5 by default

        The 13 and 16 stand for the size of the laptop yes. Hemce the mainboards are not compatible. Future Framework 13 mainboards will fit older Framework 13 cases. Same with 16, its just they arent interchangeable with eachother.

        • @SentinianOPEnglish
          1•1 year ago

          Alright thanks!!! Once I get this school refund I’m ordering one

          • DudewitbowEnglish
            2•1 year ago

            Just to be clear with naming, Framework uses naming like Dell XPS laptops, which are Dell XPS 13/15/17 based on size.the name itself doesnt really tell you what hardware is in it, just like just saying Mac Book Air isnt specific. All it will refer to is what size youre expecting.

  • @SaveComengs@lemmy.federa.netEnglish
    1•1 year ago

    Based Celeste player!

    For your use case I think even the oldest i5-1135g7 model is fine, I have a slightly higher clocked version of that CPU and it handles Celeste flawlessly.
    Celeste even runs cleanly on GNU/Linux with a translation layer, so it should work very well natively on Windows.

    As for the video streaming, I would say that’s a non issue on anything modern (3rd gen intel or later)

    I assume you are using Windows? Because I’ve heard people complaining about sleep issues on Linux with 12th and 13th gen Intel CPUs. I believe this is an Intel issue and not a Framework issue, so you might want to get a 11th gen CPU if you are using Linux.

    As for upgrading to 16 inch, I don’t think that’s possible. Apart from using the old RAM, SSD, WIFI card, and the expansion cards, I think all the parts are incompatible so you’ll basically have to buy it separately. My opinion is that the 16 inch is only necessary if you are doing moderate to heavy gaming (modern 3D games as an example), so it’s probably fine sticking with the 13 inch. And if you end up wanting the 16 inch anyway, you can sell your 13 inch to someone else.

    • @SentinianOPEnglish
      1•1 year ago

      Unfortunately I did not play Celeste, it was just the first game that came to mind. Go ahead take away my transfem card 😔

      I use Linux on my laptops, and my old laptop is a 10th generation so I probably don’t have that issue cause of it. I would prefer linux but I think the old gen stuff is sold out so whatever the latest gen is what I have to get

      As for the size I was stupid and didn’t realize that the names referred to the size, in that case I’m going for the 13 in