BabyTurtles [none/use name]

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  • But the specific part about being ruthlessly attacked for “speaking truth to power” is correct and justified and in no way inherently tied to reaction. It’s also a common phrase in progressive circles (in fact I hear it more from progressives).

    I have to say I do slightly envy you from living around mostly progressives because I’m telling you, when a Nazi finds out they’re hated for their beliefs, their immediate response is, “you hate me because I’m speaking the ‘truth’ and you can’t handle it”, and they take hate as validation for digging in deeper to their Nazi beliefs. The “truth” being, “race realism”, or whatever way they rebrand their shitter bigotry.

    You get the same thing from racist white Facebook Karens, “the lion does not concern itself with the opinions of the sheep”. It’s so common it’s like a corny meme.

    I’m also just way too aware of how racists and Nazis act online and it’s not a comfortable place to be either.


  • Theory is really important, but if you need every member of your revolution to have a PhD in dialectical materialism, you will never have a revolution. You’ve gatekeeped your revolution to the intellectual bourgeoise.

    You need revolutionary leaders who can take theory, and distill it down to values that ordinary working class people can understand.

    It’s extremely important to recognize the balance to walk here: to encourage solidarity between both the intellectuals, and the proletariat who cannot afford higher education.


  • Like it’s really about how if you go to a mutual aid group and start talking about communist theory, you’re going to be shunned, stalked or worse.

    No. You won’t be, IF you can set your ego aside.

    From an abundance of personal experience, you can talk about class consciousness to almost anyone across the political spectrum. We’re pretty much all working class schmucks who don’t like smug insufferable wealthy out-out-touch elites. We all just want our basic needs to be in reach.

    Imho the biggest problem that most budding young communists run into is that they want so badly to be a symbol of communism, convert everyone to stalinism, revert all CIA propoganda, and rehabilitate the image of Russia and the DPRK.

    You have to pick your battles. You can’t get the average USian to love the word “communism”, but you can easily get them to hate billionaires and federal establishment corporatists.


  • One person saying something that is an absurd lie does not mean everyone who says it is a liar. You know this. Do you not see this happen literally every day with anti-zionists? I sure do.

    Coopting right-wing reactionary language is unhelpful, no matter how right or justified you feel. At best you’ve muddied the waters, at worst the libs are now pointing at you saying, “look they talk just like Nazis”.

    On a deeper level, persecution complex is a Western/US issue, rooted in Christian Puritan values. Even for people who aren’t Christian, it’s subconsciously ingrained.

    Just let it go, stop feeling bad about yourself because people were not receptive to your message. Rewrite it into a better message. Anti-war, pro-socialism, pro-communism sentiment is on the rise. Don’t be like the Dems and snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    When she says that, she explains that she was harassed, stalked and threatened in connection to her anti-war advocacy in the wake of 9/11

    Absolutely not okay that happened. Harassment and threats are never acceptable. And in hindsight, their anti-war stance aged like fine wine, as the same warhawks eager to invade Afghanistan and Iraq in 2001 pretend they knew it was a mistake the whole time in 2025. The tides turned and being anti-invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan is extremely popular today.


  • They say they’re being harassed for “speaking truth to power”, and right wing reactionary chuds and Nazis say the exact same thing. I hear all the time that “people hated Charlie Kirk because he spoke truth to power”.

    Also, no, engaging in those things doesn’t make you a communist at all, you can do all of those things and still not be one. In fact, you could argue all of those things actually help the system you are fighting survive, especially if you’re not doing them within a revolutionary organization.

    They don’t make you a communist, they make you a good person. Everyone will be overwhelmingly more receptive to listening to your theory, when you’ve established yourself as a good person and not a bad person.

    “Don’t be a good person because you might help slow the collapse” isn’t communist either, it’s accelerationist.

    I think the plot gets lost way too early when people start treating it like culture war slop when the whole point was to make everything better for the most people possible.

    Communism is not a hard sell when you meet people where they’re at, and speak to their needs and fears, instead of treating it like your moral high horse.



  • However, from a leftist perspective the correct solution is to stop exploiting the third world and allow it to develop itself (actually, the correct solution is to pay reparations)

    I absolutely agree. So to tackle this issue from the immigration end first is really putting the cart before the horse.

    If you have a choice between imperialism and refugees die, or imperialism and refugees live, the choice is obvious.

    That’s where we’re at, no? I fully appreciate that this is a symptom of imperialism, but what’s why it’s so much incredibly important that the left be taking it on as a fight against Imperialism, not joining the right in fighting immigration.

    Once countries are at similar levels of development and there is no longer pressure that extracts skilled labor from the less developed to the more developed, this ceases to be an issue altogether

    I completely agree again, you’ve made excellent points here and I think we agree on the theory, I don’t agree that the execution is following through.

    Especially because the other important point that keeps getting missed is the BSW wants to increase police presence and funding. IF, the BSW was looking to pay indigenous people reparations to stay in the country to counter immigration, I would be all for it. But their plan sounds a lot more like a reflection of the US imperial core and ICE.