ignoring that stupidity can be inherited via nurture
I refuse to believe thatstupidity is a thing, let alone can be inherited via nature or nurture!
So, you’re just ignoring the historical context of eugenics… Cool /s
definition that you have thusfar been unable to provide authoritative sources agreeing with you on, and that disagrees with the societal definition.
I’m not a big fan of appealing to authority.
Edit:
you haven’t read the article, have you?
Prior to 1924, Priddy had performed hundreds of forced sterilizations by creatively interpreting laws which allowed surgery to benefit the “physical, mental or moral” condition of the inmates at the Colony. He would operate to relieve “chronic pelvic disorder” and, in the process, sterilize the women. According to Priddy, the women he chose were “immoral” because of their “fondness for men,” their reputations for “promiscuity,” and their “over-sexed” and “man-crazy” tendencies. One sixteen-year-old girl was sterilized for her habit of “talking to the little boys.”
I refuse to believe thatstupidity is a thing, let alone can be inherited via nature or nurture!
Apologies, I was using “stupidity” as shorthand for “lack of intelligence”. Are we in agreement that intelligence is inherited as a mixture of nature and nurture? What I say next does depend on agreement here.
So remember when you said
Not everything inheritaple is based on genes. If two people who love playing the violin get children,I’ll guaranteeyou that their offspring will know one thing or two about violins.
Let’s say Priddy sterilized someone, they met a partner who also loved playing violin, and they adopted a kid. The sterilization would do nothing to prevent the kid from knowing a thing or two about the violin. Do we agree? Do you see what I mean about sterilization not preventing the inheritance of non-biological traits?
Now swap out “love for the violin” with “deprioritizing education”, and you have the seeds for Idiocracy. This works with or without involving eugenics, so you’re choosing to look at the movie through the lens of eugenics.
Are we in agreement that intelligence is inherited as a mixture of nature and nurture? What I say next does depend on agreement here.
What do you mean by intelligence? General intelligence has never been scientifically proven to exist. So in that sense: I don’t believe in intelligence, either.
Let’s say Priddy sterilized someone, they met a partner who also loved playing violin, and they adopted a kid. The sterilization would do nothing to prevent the kid from knowing a thing or two about the violin. Do we agree? Do you see what I mean about sterilization not preventing the inheritance of non-biological traits?
Apart from the morbidity of you using that historical example as a juming off point for a thought experiment:
That’s assuming that the law would have allowed for the sterilized person to adopt someone. It certainly wouldn’t have.
What do you mean by intelligence? General intelligence has never been scientifically proven to exist. So in that sense: I don’t believe in intelligence, either.
That’s a hell of a bomb to drop when we’re waist deep in the discussion, and quite frankly not a can of worms I have the time to open, so I’m just going to peace out. Thank you for the civil discussion, have a good day!
I refuse to believe thatstupidity is a thing, let alone can be inherited via nature or nurture!
So, you’re just ignoring the historical context of eugenics… Cool /s
I’m not a big fan of appealing to authority.
Edit:
you haven’t read the article, have you?
Apologies, I was using “stupidity” as shorthand for “lack of intelligence”. Are we in agreement that intelligence is inherited as a mixture of nature and nurture? What I say next does depend on agreement here.
So remember when you said
Let’s say Priddy sterilized someone, they met a partner who also loved playing violin, and they adopted a kid. The sterilization would do nothing to prevent the kid from knowing a thing or two about the violin. Do we agree? Do you see what I mean about sterilization not preventing the inheritance of non-biological traits?
Now swap out “love for the violin” with “deprioritizing education”, and you have the seeds for Idiocracy. This works with or without involving eugenics, so you’re choosing to look at the movie through the lens of eugenics.
What do you mean by intelligence? General intelligence has never been scientifically proven to exist. So in that sense: I don’t believe in intelligence, either.
Apart from the morbidity of you using that historical example as a juming off point for a thought experiment: That’s assuming that the law would have allowed for the sterilized person to adopt someone. It certainly wouldn’t have.
That’s a hell of a bomb to drop when we’re waist deep in the discussion, and quite frankly not a can of worms I have the time to open, so I’m just going to peace out. Thank you for the civil discussion, have a good day!
How often did I say that this is not about real life, but the internal logic of the movie?