• Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    402 months ago

    Everything I’ve heard about patriarchy in SK makes it sound like absolute hell. What’s that maybe exists maybe not movement where women are essentially doing 70s feminist secession from men? I’ve heard a bit about it and some of the interviews with women about the shit they go through are harrowing.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      312 months ago

      NATOpedai: 4B movement

      4B (or “Four Nos”) is a feminist movement whose proponents refuse to 1) date men, 2) get married, 3) have sex with men, or 4) have children.

        • ButtBidet [he/him]
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          282 months ago

          To add

          The movement has approximately 3,400 members on Naver

          Pretty damn small to boot

          • Othello [comrade/them, love/loves]
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            242 months ago

            Yeah Americans love to say things like “the population decline in South Korea is because of the 4b movement” when it’s not a big thing at all. It drives me crazy. It’s just buying into right wing propaganda about population decline.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            172 months ago

            Yeah, my understanding is it’s one of those things where the line between an actual movement, a symbolic expression of rage, and right wing fearmongering is hard to draw.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        112 months ago

        One notable feature of the 4B movement, as with other Korean digital feminist movements, is that members often identify themselves as “anonymous women,” as it is conventional not to disclose personal details online.[

        Korea “fem-anon” language to distinguish from just “anon” (assumed male) amuses me.