Chris Gloninger wove the reality of global heating into his forecasts in the conservative heartland of Iowa. Not everyone was receptive.

  • Flying Squid
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    31 year ago

    If they have an effect and we’re pumping tons of it into the atmosphere in a NOT natural way, then it sounds like that effect would be magnified greatly.

    What effect do you think CO2 and methane have on our atmosphere?

    • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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      11 year ago

      Again you are going off point, I posted could there be other factors? We got out of an ice age w/o human involvement as the Earth warmed, could there not be an exponential heating of the Earth that has nothing to do w/ co2/methane levels? Maybe this is the cycle of our planet.

      • Flying Squid
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        21 year ago

        Nothing to do with it? Ok, then again, what effect does putting a lot of extra methane and CO2 have chemically on the atmosphere? What is the resulting reaction? Unless, again, they are chemically neutral.

        • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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          11 year ago

          So you are saying that there is not any possible way there are outside forces that could be part of the problem? Solar flares disrupt communications, the Earth doesn’t have a perfect orbit, we know the Earth tilts in alignment to the Sun (seasons) and the magnetic poles have flipped a few time. We also know when massive event happen like plate tectonic shifts and volcano mass ejections can make the earth wobble. But naw they couldn’t be a factor, we just have one answer…

          • Flying Squid
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            51 year ago

            No, I’m objecting to you suggesting that humans are not a factor. Without explaining the chemistry. I’m beginning to suspect you aren’t a climate scientist.

            • @TIEPilot@lemmy.world
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              11 year ago

              Stop suggesting humans are the only factor. The fact you can’t accept that there are possibly other factors in play tells me you are also not a “climate scientist”. Something I never claimed to be, nor a chemist, so that’s a bit odd eh?

              • @CmdrShepard
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                31 year ago

                All your possible outside causes can easily be observed and measured by modern humans. What plate tectonics and volcanic eruptions are causing the current heating? If our orbit or tilt around the sun has changed, why don’t you think we’ve noticed that?

              • Flying Squid
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                21 year ago

                Tell me what you think: Are humans a factor- yes or no?

                And no, I am not a climate scientist. I merely defer to them. And almost all of them say that humans are the primary factor in climate change. You seem to think you know better, so having expert knowledge in that area would seem to be a prerequisite.

          • Cranakis
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            31 year ago

            We have one answer that we have any control over. The rest is pretty irrelevant. What point are you trying to make? Just and academic one? I’m not saying you’re wrong, just who fucking cares?