• FfaerieOxide
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    211 months ago

    Begging the question the property damage is violence, aren’t we?

    Also that advocating for enslavement of other humans isn’t violence, which it is.

    • Metaright
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      111 months ago

      I could understand not considering property damage to be violence, but how is advocacy violence in itself?

      • FfaerieOxide
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        111 months ago

        Why are you carrying water for The Klan? Let them bastards be thirsty.

        • Metaright
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          111 months ago

          What I’m saying is a principle I apply to all groups of people. I try not to hold different moral standards just because I find someone to be reprehensible.

          • FfaerieOxide
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            111 months ago

            Whatever principle you allege to hold is currently having you defend peoples’ “right” to try to enslave other people without being punched in the teeth for even suggesting as much and you should really stop doing that, whatever the reason.

            Enslaving people is bad.

            • Metaright
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              111 months ago

              Whatever principle you allege to hold is currently having you defend peoples’ “right” to try to enslave other people

              This is false. I have said numerous times that when I decry violent reprisal, I’m talking about advocacy, not action. I hope you’re not lying about this on purpose to try to discredit me.

              Enslaving people is bad.

              I’m not sure why you think I disagree with this, considering I’ve explicitly said so myself in this thread.

              • FfaerieOxide
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                111 months ago

                You’re sounding real Duncan McLeod of the Clan McLeod from season 3, episode 19 of Highlander, The Series right now and you should stop it.

                Advocacy for slavery is itself violence and you should stop defending it.

                We should not have a society where people attempt to enslave other humans (which is at all stages an act of violence).

                Using violence to bring about a world where people are not enslaved is just, funny, good, awesome, laudable, recommended, and the way decent humans go about this “life” thing.

              • AnonTwo
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                111 months ago

                There’s such a thing as trying too hard, and choosing your hills to die on.

                Reading the room as well

                If you wanna fight for advocacy, but you choose the thread that’s all about slavery, that says a lot about you.

                • Metaright
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                  11 months ago

                  Is there another thread about the morality of advocacy that I could go to instead?

                  Plus, you’re still acting as if I’ve said that advocating for slavery is good or acceptable.

                  • PugJesusOP
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                    111 months ago

                    You still haven’t given an answer to the mob boss example.

                  • AnonTwo
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                    11 months ago

                    If you’re arguing about it here, then you are. No ifs ands or buts.

                    There doesn’t need to be another thread about advocacy for you to go to, there’s the phrase “There’s a time and a place for everything”. This is not the time or the place unless you want to be advocating for slavery.

                    And sorry, there really isn’t a way around to argue around it. You are advocating for slavery by defending people who advocate for it.