• @Stoneykins
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    1811 months ago

    Why would you subscribe to something in the first place without knowing anything more than its title? Bizarre.

    • @positiveWHAT@lemmy.world
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      1311 months ago

      I think it was general politics in the begining, as the name implies. Holy fucking shit mericans aren’t building a good rep with this one.

      • @Stoneykins
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        It has only existed for a month and based on all evidence has always been for just US politics. Are you sure you haven’t confused it with another politics group on lemmy? Like !politics@lemmy.ml?

        Idk why people want to change communities to be what they want them to be instead of seeking out or making the communities they want elsewhere. Anyone can have the politics name on any other instance, unlike how reddit was.

        • @positiveWHAT@lemmy.world
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          Ah, you might be right, that’s where I’m subscribed. It is still conceited to not put US in the name, but I’ll just block it and not think of it again.

          E: Oh, that one is also filled with US drama. Guess I gotta put “world” in front then.

          • @Stoneykins
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            711 months ago

            That one might be filled with US stuff because many of it’s users are from the US, but there is no rule requiring everything be related to US politics, which seems to be the rule people wanted changed here. Even if they changed that rule here, this place would still have been 90% US politics because that is what the community that grew here wanted.

            • @positiveWHAT@lemmy.world
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              111 months ago

              You are arguing what happens, I am arguing what should happen, but you’re right it’s no harder than skiping to a new one.

              • @Stoneykins
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                511 months ago

                We are both arguing what we each think should happen. It just so happens that in this disagreement, what I think should happen is for things to not change.

                I get the appeal of somehow turning a larger more active community that is similar to what you want into explicitly what you want, but that doesn’t consider how that effects the majority of people who joined and are part of that community because it is already explicitly what they want. The majority of the demand for political news on lemmy is for US politics.

                If there was somehow a way to throttle the US politics so it didn’t flood out everything else, then the bulk of the community would just find another place that wasn’t doing that.

                All that can reasonably be done is be patient, for communities to grow and stabilize, until there are active groups available for each specific interest

                • @positiveWHAT@lemmy.world
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                  111 months ago

                  I think I mixed an argument here, I’m arguing names matching content. For instance it would be very legal and very cool to rename this one “US politics”.
                  The other one is organicly caused as you say, but I think the problem lies on Statians who need to calm down on the home voting, they already have a !usa@lemmy.ml for that purpose.

                  • @Stoneykins
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                    111 months ago

                    I’m saying both politics subs are “organically” as you say, flooded with us politics, because the demand (in english at least) for politics on lemmy is mostly for US politics at the moment.

                    And I’m also arguing names don’t matter too mcuh for these kindof communities. There are many that have sarcastic, silly, or intentionally dishonest names, and I don’t see that as a problem, just the way things are. IMO Changing the name to “US politics” wouldn’t have a positive or negative impact on anyone’s experience and is probably unnecessary, especially since the URL probably can’t change anyways.

                    A rule change would be ineffective at increasing visibility of non-US news, an attempt to force visibility in this community of non-US politics would cause many subscribers to leave for another group, amd a complete name change is a combination of ineffective, unnecessary, and impossible.