A South Korean man has been sentenced to jail for using artificial intelligence to generate exploitative images of children, the first case of its kind in the country as courts around the world encounter the use of new technologies in creating abusive sexual content.
This is like telling someone to “stop liking rock music” or “stop enjoying ice cream.” People don’t decide what their preferences are, they just have them. If we can give pedophiles a way to release those urges without harming children that should be a good thing. Well not good, but positive in the relative sense at least.
Isn’t it less accepting and more realistically doing damage control to avoid legitimate damage?
Like sure we can shun them to the point of violence but then they just will hide it, bottle it, and we just have to hope they never actually do anything with those bottled emotions.
We’re very quick to get uncomfortable about people’s issues, but very slow to do anything to actually prevent those issues from leading to more serious issues.
The reason we’re even going in this line of reasoning, is the possibility that it could lead to no actual children being harmed by it. And it’s mainly because it has the advantage of deterring people you don’t actually know have those issues, which is the #1 issue at the moment with it.
Incels already have an outlet (regular porn), and they still join far right terrorist groups because they can’t pull girls in real life. Imagine incels but they also molest kids.
It’s idiots like this that make me think of that story I saw the other day on lemmy. Where a disabled man was taking pictures of kids damaging his property, someone saw him and called the cops. Cops came, questioned him, found out what was up and released him, meanwhile morons in the neighborhood hear he was taking pictures of kids and got arrested, and that was enough for them to brutally beat and kill him that same night.
But do you actually have a reply to the content of the comment? You’re essentially pulling a “smells like communism, it bad” instead of addressing the points brought up.
That’s like telling gay dudes to stop liking dick. It’s brain chemistry and neural circuits, you can’t exactly just snap your fingers and be rid of the problem. Humans are complex creatures.
Pedophilia is not akin to being gay (and kindly fuck off with that tyvm). It’s akin to rape, or sexual sadism (and I mean real, violent sadism, not roleplay). It is a predatory inclination and @nxsfi is right - trying to frame it as an “orientation” does sound like MAP acceptance rhetoric.
Consent to what? Me liking them? Nobody really gets to decide what I like. I don’t even decide that. If I could do that, I’d pick something super accessible and non controversial like just breathing or viewing the color green.
Pedophilia can’t be comparable to rape because rape is an act and pedophilia is not. Child rape is often incorrectly called pedophilia, but pedophilia itself is a mental state, and this is exactly the kind of conversation where conflating mental states with actions is entirely unacceptable.
Yes, obviously. I’m not equating them, but human sexuality is a deep and multifaceted subject. We can’t just make statements like “just stop enjoying this”, that’s not how humans work and I think we all know that.
The point is, do folks wake up and select their sexual interest?
Do you believe that lgbt conversion therapy works? Because when you say “just stop being attracted to kids, you sicko” you’re essentially saying that you can train someone out of their base sexual attractions. I don’t think lgbt conversion therapy works, do you?
This is not about LGBTQIA+! To strengthen the argument, one could also say “stop being hetero” or “stop being attracted to your preference”. It’s just not possible, same as with pedophiles to change their preference.
The crucial difference to most other forms of sexuality is that they can’t engage in sexual acts with consenting people, which makes the acting on it morally and legally wrong. But Just being a pedophile isn’t it they don’t act upon it.
And noone is calling for pedophilia to get a place in LGBTQIA+ btw… Don’t know where you got that from smh…
Stop parroting your lines and actually respond to the content of the comment ffs. You’re acting the same as a conservative who ignores what folks say and yells abortion is murder until they’re blue in the face. If you want to be that guy, you do you, I just won’t bother wasting my time.
Just stop being attracted to kids you sicko
This is like telling someone to “stop liking rock music” or “stop enjoying ice cream.” People don’t decide what their preferences are, they just have them. If we can give pedophiles a way to release those urges without harming children that should be a good thing. Well not good, but positive in the relative sense at least.
Sounds exactly like MAP acceptance rhetoric to me.
That’s because you’re not very bright.
You should accept everyone for who they are!
Who they are: a fkin kiddy diddler
Isn’t it less accepting and more realistically doing damage control to avoid legitimate damage?
Like sure we can shun them to the point of violence but then they just will hide it, bottle it, and we just have to hope they never actually do anything with those bottled emotions.
We’re very quick to get uncomfortable about people’s issues, but very slow to do anything to actually prevent those issues from leading to more serious issues.
The reason we’re even going in this line of reasoning, is the possibility that it could lead to no actual children being harmed by it. And it’s mainly because it has the advantage of deterring people you don’t actually know have those issues, which is the #1 issue at the moment with it.
Incels already have an outlet (regular porn), and they still join far right terrorist groups because they can’t pull girls in real life. Imagine incels but they also molest kids.
It’s idiots like this that make me think of that story I saw the other day on lemmy. Where a disabled man was taking pictures of kids damaging his property, someone saw him and called the cops. Cops came, questioned him, found out what was up and released him, meanwhile morons in the neighborhood hear he was taking pictures of kids and got arrested, and that was enough for them to brutally beat and kill him that same night.
But do you actually have a reply to the content of the comment? You’re essentially pulling a “smells like communism, it bad” instead of addressing the points brought up.
That’s like telling gay dudes to stop liking dick. It’s brain chemistry and neural circuits, you can’t exactly just snap your fingers and be rid of the problem. Humans are complex creatures.
Pedophilia is not akin to being gay (and kindly fuck off with that tyvm). It’s akin to rape, or sexual sadism (and I mean real, violent sadism, not roleplay). It is a predatory inclination and @nxsfi is right - trying to frame it as an “orientation” does sound like MAP acceptance rhetoric.
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I like girls. Does that mean I rape them too? Spaceships too. Also rape?
Children can never consent, so your analogy doesn’t work
Spaceships can absolutely consent.
Does lemmy have a dragonsfuckingcars yet?
Dunno, but would it be cool with ai spaceships fucking kids?
I’d hope most instances would defederate from that.
We can agree on that
Consent to what? Me liking them? Nobody really gets to decide what I like. I don’t even decide that. If I could do that, I’d pick something super accessible and non controversial like just breathing or viewing the color green.
Pedophilia can’t be comparable to rape because rape is an act and pedophilia is not. Child rape is often incorrectly called pedophilia, but pedophilia itself is a mental state, and this is exactly the kind of conversation where conflating mental states with actions is entirely unacceptable.
Obligatory “are you comparing pedophiles to LGBTQ?”
Yes, obviously. I’m not equating them, but human sexuality is a deep and multifaceted subject. We can’t just make statements like “just stop enjoying this”, that’s not how humans work and I think we all know that.
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Consider this: killing people bad.
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Obviously I’m not pro rape. Just don’t kill people, it’s not difficult.
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Stop veing gay, stop being trans, stop being attracted to fatties, stop being attracted to small people.
Stop trying to make LGBTP a thing
The point is, do folks wake up and select their sexual interest?
Do you believe that lgbt conversion therapy works? Because when you say “just stop being attracted to kids, you sicko” you’re essentially saying that you can train someone out of their base sexual attractions. I don’t think lgbt conversion therapy works, do you?
Pedophiles have no place in LGBT+. Those who say otherwise are conservatives trying to undermine LGBT+ by associating them with pedophiles.
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This is not about LGBTQIA+! To strengthen the argument, one could also say “stop being hetero” or “stop being attracted to your preference”. It’s just not possible, same as with pedophiles to change their preference.
The crucial difference to most other forms of sexuality is that they can’t engage in sexual acts with consenting people, which makes the acting on it morally and legally wrong. But Just being a pedophile isn’t it they don’t act upon it.
And noone is calling for pedophilia to get a place in LGBTQIA+ btw… Don’t know where you got that from smh…
Stop parroting your lines and actually respond to the content of the comment ffs. You’re acting the same as a conservative who ignores what folks say and yells abortion is murder until they’re blue in the face. If you want to be that guy, you do you, I just won’t bother wasting my time.
“Anyone who disagrees with me is a child rapist.” That’s the level of argumentation I expect from a child or a fascist.
Or politicians who want chat control
Looking at you, Vic Toews
https://youtu.be/2xfwJ2magpw?si=sLeN3FVzSZsUMKuC
What’s more disgusting, nonces or those who say that it’s fascist to ban them?