Palpatine returned through clones and Sith magic, explained at the end of the story
The character Poe Dameron knows nothing about Force magic, which is why he says “somehow.” He is working from limited information and is not an “author voice” to the audience.
A) did not know that characters with limited perspectives exist, as an actor, especially since limited perspectives are often key drivers of plot elements in every type of story. For instance, none of Hamlet or Romeo and Juliet happens at all without similar lack of information from characters, and actors tend to know about those plays.
And
B) was unaware of shaky dialogue in literally every Star Wars media ever, and the fact that pulpy dialogue like this is a signature element of Star Wars.
I also kind of find it weird that this line got memed into being the ur-example of “Sequels Suck” by supposed fans of Star Wars, a series well known for its brand-specific dialogue choices, which may or may not have originally been intentional, but definitely is now.
Its not like it is the only example. The sequel trilogy has plenty of other annoyances just like the prequels and originals do. The problem for many is that palp’s death validates the story and actions of the characters. He lives and a new order pops up, then much of what happened was pointless. To me, picking on that line is a way of showing how much of a clusterfuck the story of the sequels is. They are amazing in visuals, acting, etc. Somewhat the polar opposite of their counterparts.
He didn’t live. He died. Then he was coming back to life and was killed again. Palpatine couldn’t even leave his chair at the time of Rise.
People can disagree on the story and that’s fine, - totally respect just “I didn’t like the story,” that’s very legitimate - just wanted to clarify that plot element
Palpatine returned through clones and Sith magic, explained at the end of the story
The character Poe Dameron knows nothing about Force magic, which is why he says “somehow.” He is working from limited information and is not an “author voice” to the audience.
All of Oscar Isaac’s acting talent cannot hide his disgust as he delivers that line. It really is something.
I think it would be very weird if Oscar Isaac
A) did not know that characters with limited perspectives exist, as an actor, especially since limited perspectives are often key drivers of plot elements in every type of story. For instance, none of Hamlet or Romeo and Juliet happens at all without similar lack of information from characters, and actors tend to know about those plays.
And
B) was unaware of shaky dialogue in literally every Star Wars media ever, and the fact that pulpy dialogue like this is a signature element of Star Wars.
I also kind of find it weird that this line got memed into being the ur-example of “Sequels Suck” by supposed fans of Star Wars, a series well known for its brand-specific dialogue choices, which may or may not have originally been intentional, but definitely is now.
Its not like it is the only example. The sequel trilogy has plenty of other annoyances just like the prequels and originals do. The problem for many is that palp’s death validates the story and actions of the characters. He lives and a new order pops up, then much of what happened was pointless. To me, picking on that line is a way of showing how much of a clusterfuck the story of the sequels is. They are amazing in visuals, acting, etc. Somewhat the polar opposite of their counterparts.
He didn’t live. He died. Then he was coming back to life and was killed again. Palpatine couldn’t even leave his chair at the time of Rise.
People can disagree on the story and that’s fine, - totally respect just “I didn’t like the story,” that’s very legitimate - just wanted to clarify that plot element
That’s a lot of words to gaslight us into thinking that line isn’t just a lazy handwave and a terrible line.
It’s not gaslighting if it’s all true