Yes we do

    • katy ✨
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      241 year ago

      They hated Bill Clinton because the “scandal” was that he had consensual sex.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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        151 year ago

        Curiously when it came to Trump who had sex with thirteen-year-olds and a long history of sexually assaulting women, suddenly all but a few Republicans cared, including none of those in office.

        • @SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net
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          71 year ago

          They said the scandal was that it was consensual not that it was not, so your examples aren’t the opposite.

          Though of course the power dynamics in the Clinton case makes the consent a bit iffy.

          • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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            31 year ago

            For most of the population, the notion of non-consensual sex is considered worse than the notion of consensual sex. These days, we’re trying to even teach young adults to engage others opt-in rather than opt-out (e.g. get a yes first).

            But yes, this is very recent, with challenges to the criminality of wife-rape as recent as the 1970s (and the presumption that abuse within families was their business and not that of the state or of law-enforcement – that changed in the 1990s!)

            So yes, there are folks like Matt Walsh and Tucker Carlson who are literally pro-rape (that is, sex assault should be legal in some circumstances) and pro-child-marriage (Tennessee is trying to create a higher tier of marriage that gets more benefits, excludes gay couples but allows for marrying girl children.) So yes, some Republicans may hold more contempt for Clinton’s consensual proclivities than for Trump’s non-consensual ones.

            But more likely it’s because to Republicans, loyalty is more important than principal, and anything can be condoned if someone marches in lockstep and salutes snappily for the transnational white power movement.

    • @MrTulip@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      91 year ago

      And thinking leftists idolize him enough to build a statue of him. Right wingers not knowing the difference between liberals and leftists, again.

      • @doctorcrimson@lemmy.today
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        21 year ago

        TBF there are Bill Clinton statues. One went up in 2009 on Bill Clinton Boulevard.

        Theres not much for Donald Trump so far, some anti-trump activist displays and a small gold statue at a CPAC event, and hopefully it stays that way for a good while.

    • @Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca
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      81 year ago

      Think a relationship with your superior is ever consensual. Huge power dynamic issues especially when someone’s the president

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]
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        201 year ago

        From Ms. Lewinsky’s position, it was wholly consensual, in that as a nineteen-year-old intern she got to have sex with a POTUS, and Clinton was not too creepy (for the nineties). Her problem was that once the encounter happened, the White House felt the need to distance her from Clinton which affected her career.

        The You’re Wrong About podcast did a good beeakdown of it all.

      • But fucking a hooker is better than getting a blowjob?

        That’s not the point they made. It was because he lied. It was because he cheated on his wife. Yet trump full on pays for a hooker and no one gives a fuck. Even Dems voted to impeach Clinton.

        • Remember when Gore conceded in a too-close-call election because he didn’t want to risk compromising the integrity of the entire federal government by dragging out the fight?

          It’s almost cute now