• @LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.world
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    988 months ago

    Why would you need to do this if your cause and actions are just? What are they trying to hide? I hope more people see this and understand Israel is morally bankrupt.

        • @Guydht@lemmy.world
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          68 months ago

          Can nobody here think like a military just for one second and understand that they don’t care about spread of information? That information will be leaked after the blackouts are over, nothing can change that. That blackout is purely so that Hamas would lose their communication capabilities. It’s a classic proven war tactic and a totally legit one.

    • @Szymon@lemmy.ca
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      448 months ago

      You need to do this if your plan is to exterminate the Palestinians and move onto their land for your own purposes.

      • @NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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        428 months ago

        Not to sound like an invasion apologist, but I’d imagine they want to limit the ability for IEDs to be remotely detonated.

        • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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          688 months ago

          Israel could have broken the back of Hamas by simply helping the Palestinian people develop a bit of infrastructure and economy. If the Palestinians have something worth losing, Hamas has no power. Hamas is as powerful as it is because of Israels policies over the last 20 years.

          • @shadysus@lemmy.ca
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            318 months ago

            Policies and direct funding

            They’ve openly bragged about funding Hamas in order to keep the Palestinian population divided and prevent any kind of formal government from forming.

            Hamas and Likud/Netanyahu need each other to stay in power. Without them, the people in the region may actually move towards peace.

          • V17
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            218 months ago

            And Hamas could have built Gazans an OK place to live in if they used the literally billions of dollars of foreign money for investments instead of for weapons and tunnels. Didn’t happen either.

            • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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              248 months ago

              With what economy?

              Israel is a first world nation with a high performance technocratic economy. What does Palestine have to work with?

              • V17
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                We’re again talking about what should have been done, and my point is that it’s a pointless exercise, but if you really can’t see any ways to build a functioning economy with literally billions of free money, then let’s continue the exercise: about half of Palestinians used to have permits to work in Israel before Hamas fucked them over by attacking Israel. In the recent years the number of Israeli work permits has been increasing again, unfortunately Hamas decided to fuck them over again. So even if they had a small economy of their own, there was a way to work and bring money to then spend in Gaza.

                But I find it really hard to believe you couldn’t imagine a dozen things more useful for Gazans than things to wage war against Israel that ultimately only ever made their situation worse.

                Another episode of “what should have been done” is that while with humanitarian aid it’s not really possible, we never should have sent Gaza any development money without any conditions based on outcomes of their usage. But as with the above, what’s done is done.

                • @TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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                  78 months ago

                  Ok, well, right now, Israel is a first world nation with a high performance technocratic economy and Palestine is rubble being ground into dust. Israel has the privilege to do better.

                  • V17
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                    28 months ago

                    I’m not sure what else they’re supposed to do. After a terrorist attack like this one, I don’t really see any other option that would realistically be accepted by the government and the population other than attempting to wipe out Hamas completely. Israel is risking many lives of Israeli soldiers in order to reduce Palestinian civilian casualties by deciding to do a terribly difficult ground invasion instead of levelling Gaza to rubble, Grozny style. I don’t blame them for trying to make the situation at least a bit easier by blocking communication of all things.

        • @qwertyqwertyqwerty
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          218 months ago

          It also theoretically would cease some methods of communication between Hamas members.

          Also not taking any sides here, just an explanation as to why communications get shut down during military conflicts.

        • V17
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          128 months ago

          Yeah, I get people are against the invasion, but if they cannot see legitimate and obvious reasons for restricting options of (human or machine) communications, they’re either completely ideologically blinded or stupid.

        • plz1
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          48 months ago

          A simple two way radio would counter that, unless the are jamming all RF.

    • DudeBoy
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      48 months ago

      I’m not supporting Israel or anything but denying your enemy the lines of communication is, like, one of the core tenants of warfare.