• Hyperreality
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    1 year ago

    Sorry. Good luck transporting a washing machine or full kitchen on public transport.

    • @homoludens@feddit.de
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      161 year ago

      Delivery of a full kitchen is not something that makes up the majority of traffic. I don’t think anyone is saying you can’t use a van for the “last mile” in such edge cases.

      Even washing machines can be delivered by cargo bike/trike though.

      • NaibofTabr
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        1 year ago

        How would you ‘use a van’ if the roads are “ripped out completely”?

        • @yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee
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          151 year ago

          You do understand nobody is talking about ripping out all roads everywhere, right?

          Right?

          • NaibofTabr
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            1 year ago

            It’s literally the title.

            I can’t even understand down voting this, unless you’re delusional.

            • @yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee
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              1 year ago

              Oh, you’re basing your opinions on fact-twisting headlines of right-wing “newspapers”, instead of, you know, reading the actual article where even they have to paint the picture just a liiittle bit differently.

              You do understand the difference between “removing roads completely” and “removing all roads”, right?

              • NaibofTabr
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                11 year ago

                You do understand the difference between “removing roads completely” and “removing all roads”, right?

                What do you think the distinction is, in this context?

                • @yA3xAKQMbq@lemm.ee
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                  101 year ago

                  Yeah, I can help you with that: “removing roads completely” does not specify how many roads are to be removed, only that the ones being removed are removed completely, as opposed to partially.

                  “Removing all roads” on the other hand means removing all roads, as opposed to, e.g., some, or many.

                  There, that was easy, wasn’t it?

                  • NaibofTabr
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                    11 year ago

                    A government adviser has called for roads in cities to be “ripped out completely” to combat air pollution. […] “We should start changing our cities and actually start thinking about ripping out road infrastructure and turning them into green spaces or green transport corridors."

                    This guy is talking about taking all the roads out of cities. That’s what this article is about.

                • @GoodbyeBlueMonday@startrek.website
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                  21 year ago

                  One of the roads near my house was removed completely.

                  All roads near my house were removed completely.

                  Two different implications, no?

                  Yes, the title implies something more extreme than is actually proposed, but that’s why I read articles (usually) before commenting.

              • NaibofTabr
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                11 year ago

                And which one is it that you think is being proposed to be “ripped out completely” in this article?

                Based on your link, I believe in this context it is ‘streets’.

                Well, just go back and read my arguments, and then recognize that all of them apply to ‘streets’, and that making the distinction between ‘streets’ and ‘roads’ does not weaken my arguments in any way.

                Try a different approach, something besides pedantry.

                • @homoludens@feddit.de
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                  51 year ago

                  Well, the expert is proposing to rip out roads - so my first guess would be they mean roads, not streets.

                  • NaibofTabr
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                    1 year ago

                    By the definition in your link, a ‘road’ would be between two cities, and the paths inside the city (where the buildings are) are ‘streets’.

                    The expert is talking about removing the paved surfaces inside cities, so he is talking about ‘streets’, by your definition.

                    Apparently the expert uses different definitions from yours.

    • Daniel Quinn
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      121 year ago

      Have a look at the Netherlands friend. I’ve seen people towing dishwashers behind their bikes more than once while living there.

    • @chocoladisco@feddit.de
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      11 year ago

      You joke, but I have done this. Wheelchair accesible trams are awesome for this. Put appliance on hand truck walk it into the tram. No heavy lifting required like when loading it in a car.

        • @chocoladisco@feddit.de
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          11 year ago

          A cheap logistics hand truck carries weights up to 250kg. If you need more it become a bit annoying because you need to switch to using OSB Boards with casters.

          Source: My life and helping friends move.

          Bonus: Hand trucks are really convenient to transport full size kegs and CO2 bottles to parties by tram.