President Joe Biden said Tuesday Israel’s prime minister needs to change his hardline government and support for the country’s military campaign is waning amid heavy bombardment of Gaza. … “This is the most conservative government in Israel’s history,” Biden said, adding that the Israeli government “doesn’t want a two-state solution.”
It’s mind-blowing how thoroughly Netanyahu has bungled this. They had damn near the entire world in full support after Hamas’ horrific attack on Israeli civilians, and they’ve managed to lose it.
Just going to point out that if your side killed more journalists in this “war” than the two decades of the Vietnam war… Maybe you’re the fucking bad guy.
Vietnam and Gaza literally could not be more different places or conflicts.
Explain
Vietnam is first in every comparison, Israel/Hamas second:
Primarily rural and/or jungle environment vs Dense urban environment
Regular army with decades of experience vs fighting a terrorist force
NVA wanted to hold and occupy territory vs Hamas wanting to just kill, with no political objective to defeat them by
Sociopolitical conflict vs religious extremists
Clear divide of combatants vs non-combatants during mass conflict (i.e. not the random insurgent acts) vs confusion of civilian-laced battlefield
Technology of media being extremely limited vs extremely mobile
Local populace that wants the war and supports the stronger force vs populace that either outright hates you or is too oppressed to express support
Another big one:
The Americans were fighting the North Vietnamese on Vietnamese soil thousands of miles from home and with no real skin in the game. Also, the North Vietnamese had massive support from other close-by Communist regimes who could feed men and materiel into Vietnam from the north. In contrast, Israel is fighting right on its own border and basically has Hamas surrounded with little possibility of game-changing further aid from outside Gaza.
You got the “jungle” part accurate about Vietnam…
And that media is more mobile these days.
Those in the West Bank don’t even believe that Hamas did what they did. They vote the attack as a act of defiance and the atrocities committed were just fake news made up by Israel. Sure to Israeli action the oppressed don’t see Hamas as worse.
Was the mortality of journalists during the vietnam war that significant? Sorry, im not an american and i only learned about vietnam through movies.
Does it really matter in relation to the point they’re making?
Its all the same, killing journalists Its bad. I thought that it was some sacred thing not to kill them until i saw russians targeting the press a year ago, now this lunatics are killing the press and their families in gaza only because they can and nobody will move a finger against them. Being this the first time that I hear of the killing of journalists in vietnam, i just wanted to know if it was a real thing or he just picked a random conflict.
So, no, but i just wanted to know
You’re not supposed to kill anyone except the other Army. The rules do allow for some collateral because explosions don’t care. But Israel is straight up targeting them which is illegal.
Looks like it was 63: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_and_missing_in_the_Vietnam_War