Apple’s MacBook Pro memory problem is worse than ever::Apple still sells expensive “Pro” computers with just 8GB of RAM and charges a fortune for more.

      • @CmdrShepard
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        2611 months ago

        Well that’s not very “green” coming from a company who stopped supplying customers with chargers “because of the environment.” When a hard drive craps out the only solution is to replace the entire board rather than a single part with an industry standard connector?

          • Tiger Jerusalem
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            611 months ago

            Of course not, the “Bios” is stored on the SSD, so if you replace it your computer won’t even boot.

            Oh, and if your SSD dies it won’t boot too.

          • @Patch@feddit.uk
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            311 months ago

            Removing individual soldered NAND chips directly connected to the motherboard, attaching new NAND chips, and somehow getting a working computer out the other end is so far beyond the abilities of most users that it’s not even funny.

            It’s way beyond the skillset of even most computer repair specialists too.

            In fact, in terms of “getting it working again” is concerned, anyone outside of an Apple assembly plant is unlikely to be much use.

            • @Inktvip@lemm.ee
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              111 months ago

              People have done it on M1’s at least. You’ll need a well equipped rework station to do it though, especially since the NAND is essentially glued to the motherboard in addition to solder.

        • Zoolander
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          111 months ago

          They disassemble those replacements and use them to create warranty parts. Apple is one of the few companies that actually does reduce and reuse first. Any parts that fail testing get recycled.

          • @CmdrShepard
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            311 months ago

            They desolder components and reuse them or they scrap old laptops and scavenge the good bits like the screen and keyboard? Assuming someone brings in a laptop with a bad hard drive, what components later get disassembled?

            • Zoolander
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              111 months ago

              All of them. They have machines that strip down the components:

              https://www.elitedaily.com/p/heres-how-apple-recycles-old-iphones-into-new-models-by-using-actual-robots-29961761

              This article is about the iPhone robots but they also have machines that do this with Macs too. Every Apple device is made with recycled content but the majority of their components are reused in remanufactured warranty devices (remanufactured rather than refurbished because refurbished reuses existing whole components, remanufacturing breaks down components, tests them, and reuses them to create entirely new components from working parts).

    • @abhibeckert@lemmy.world
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      Technically they don’t even have an SSD anymore. They just have a bunch of NAND chips.

      The drive controller is in the CPU. Which is great for performance… especially when you’re reading data that is already cached by the drive controller you’re limited by RAM speed instead of PCIe - but it’s a bit of a headache when it comes to upgrades.

      The band chips are on a daughter board on their larger desktops. And soldered on laptops and the tiny Mac Mini.

    • @qwertyqwertyqwerty
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      2111 months ago

      Yes. There is no internal upgradable parts. I believe you can only replace the battery cells, the fans, and the mainboard (motherboard with soldered CPU/RAM(VRAM)/SSD, and all connected modules like the USB chipsets, audio chipset, etc.).

      • Justin
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        611 months ago

        Replacing the motherboard triggers the screen drm and the screen gets all fucked up and won’t go to sleep.

    • @MeanEYE@lemmy.world
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      1011 months ago

      Everything is soldered these days, RAM included, hence the issues and complaints. I find it extra comical that they tried to cheapen on the solder as well, but when that resulted in issues with GPU splitting away from PCB, they glued shoe rubber on top the chip so case pushes it to make contact and called it a “solution”. Haha. Imagine the amount of savings they made on such a wast amount of solder per PCB. It might even approach range in pennies.

      • @GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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        511 months ago

        It’s not even soldered, they’ve gone further than that. They literally print the memory and storage onto the system on a chip, as part of the fabrication process. No amount of soldering skill will be able to remove and replace that memory/storage, because it’s on the chip itself.