• TWeaK
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    210 months ago

    See I think the key point is that you assume at least half of all Gazans are guilty alongside Hamas because >50% of people in Gaza supported Hamas in the 2007 elections. Even assuming similar proportions now, I would argue that a large number of that supporting group are only the victims of propaganda, rather than organically and sincerely taking that position.

    There were more than 2 million people in the Gaza strip, of which only 50,000 were members of Hamas. The rest are civilians, people who on one side face repression from Israelis and on the other face Hamas telling them they can make things better.

    • rivermonster
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      110 months ago

      First, I definitely think you are right that they’re victims of propaganda. And then I ask myself, would that knowledge have me feel less recriminations to someone in the Klan who bought into their propaganda and lynched a man? And the answer, for me personally, is no.

      No, I’m responding to the recent poll, the current best data we have.

      According to the poll results, some 59% of respondents indicated that they “extremely support” Hamas’ actions on Oct. 7, with another 16% saying that they “somewhat support” them.

      Those figures are roughly in line with overall support for Hamas, with the poll finding that a cumulative 76% of respondents hold either a “very positive” or “somewhat positive” view of the group when asked to rank their support for a list of Palestinian political parties.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/palestinian-poll-finds-strong-support-for-hamas-oct-7-attacks-river-to-the-sea-state/ar-AA1k6mEx

      Lots of sources have reported on it. If you don’t like that one you can find mNy more.

      • TWeaK
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        210 months ago

        And then I ask myself, would that knowledge have me feel less recriminations to someone in the Klan who bought into their propaganda and lynched a man? And the answer, for me personally, is no.

        That’s where you draw a fictional strawman, one that isn’t you, and claim that you would be far more righteous and not fall for it.

        It’s strange how you would refer to a recent poll, promoted by the IDF but yet fundamentally queried by Palestinian government, yet at the same time the IDF completely disregards (and yet doesn’t offer its own number) for the casualty numbers provided by Palestine. It reeks of cherry picking the numbers that suit your argument.

        Israel have, so far, killed more than 10x the number of people Hamas did in one day. When is enough, enough?

        How many Palestinian civilians need to die before Israel is satisfied?