As negotiations get underway at COP28, we compiled a list of the leading research documenting the connection between meat and greenhouse gas emissions.
It’s more accurate to say that I reject that commenter’s asinine notion that eating meat and being concerned about the environment are mutually exclusive, when there are plenty of sources that aren’t entirely in the corporate machine. Most of my meat comes from the local Maui Cattle Company, which is all grassfed on our hillsides and processed locally. The last few chickens I’ve had were also raised by neighbors, then hand plucked and cooked the same day. This does happen in the world, just some of you need a reminder.
edit: further, this island is overrun with invasive axis deer that need frequent culling so they don’t decimate fields of crops, so venison is a regular thing here if you know hunters willing to share, and vegans/vegetarians should be happy we’re helping to save the veggies.
They kinda are mutually exclusive? Weird how everyone gets their meat locally when climate comes into the discussion, yet 99.99% of the meat we eat isn’t actually local.
Hey, I can’t speak for everyone here, but I’m eating locally sourced meat raised on an isolated island, and you chose to question that, as if you actually have any idea what goes on here.
edit: we also locally source invasive pigs that otherwise would be tearing up the landscape. And there’s a population of people that love going after the invasive feral chickens.
These guys imagine that if the cows were exterminated the emissions would go away. It’s like they haven’t heard of nature. The cows’ niche will quickly be filled by feral deer which are exactly as bad as cows for methane
If you kill all the deer and leave the land empty of animals you still get the emissions as the grass rots in the open air (rotted by the same bacteria the cows and sheep use)
You can’t save emissions by reducing cattle numbers, you can just move the emissions from “farming” to “nature”
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read all day, congrats. Somehow eliminating cows would lead to exploding deer populations? And even if it did, deer don’t produce methane at the rate that cows do lol. One of the biggest reasons cows emit so much methane is their shitty feed.
Cows, deer, sheep all make as much methane per unit mass. If they didn’t we could simply inoculate whichever is the worst with the gut bacteria of the best, since they are all ungulates, they all rely on bacteria to break down grass to something they can digest directly
Or do you imagine there’s is something else we could grow on that land that was judged only good enough for cattle
Ikr? Like, what do they expect from us here? I’m in favor of finding ways to reduce aspects of cruel commercial industry practices in general, but they also don’t want us to humanely kill any cows, invasive deer, wild pigs and feral chickens for any reason at all? They’ll just completely overgraze the available grassland, decimate crops and orchards, tear up native tree roots in the forests, and/or shit on literally everything while causing property damage. Or just not eat them when we have to cull the population? Seems like a waste. These people just haven’t thought it all through as well as they give themselves credit for.
People on lemmy are more likely to be left wing. More likely than average to be vegan.
Can’t you believe that a meat eater might be at the ethical end of meat eaters? I eat local, I care about food miles, permaculture, grass fed beef and lamb.
What do you drive? A bicycle, or do you want climate change?
It’s more accurate to say that I reject that commenter’s asinine notion that eating meat and being concerned about the environment are mutually exclusive, when there are plenty of sources that aren’t entirely in the corporate machine. Most of my meat comes from the local Maui Cattle Company, which is all grassfed on our hillsides and processed locally. The last few chickens I’ve had were also raised by neighbors, then hand plucked and cooked the same day. This does happen in the world, just some of you need a reminder.
edit: further, this island is overrun with invasive axis deer that need frequent culling so they don’t decimate fields of crops, so venison is a regular thing here if you know hunters willing to share, and vegans/vegetarians should be happy we’re helping to save the veggies.
They kinda are mutually exclusive? Weird how everyone gets their meat locally when climate comes into the discussion, yet 99.99% of the meat we eat isn’t actually local.
I’m on an island with ranches taking up most of the mountain grasslands. Most don’t import cattle. The deer have nowhere to migrate to. Think harder.
“Think harder”
Yup… that
Hey, I can’t speak for everyone here, but I’m eating locally sourced meat raised on an isolated island, and you chose to question that, as if you actually have any idea what goes on here.
edit: we also locally source invasive pigs that otherwise would be tearing up the landscape. And there’s a population of people that love going after the invasive feral chickens.
These guys imagine that if the cows were exterminated the emissions would go away. It’s like they haven’t heard of nature. The cows’ niche will quickly be filled by feral deer which are exactly as bad as cows for methane
If you kill all the deer and leave the land empty of animals you still get the emissions as the grass rots in the open air (rotted by the same bacteria the cows and sheep use)
You can’t save emissions by reducing cattle numbers, you can just move the emissions from “farming” to “nature”
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read all day, congrats. Somehow eliminating cows would lead to exploding deer populations? And even if it did, deer don’t produce methane at the rate that cows do lol. One of the biggest reasons cows emit so much methane is their shitty feed.
Cows, deer, sheep all make as much methane per unit mass. If they didn’t we could simply inoculate whichever is the worst with the gut bacteria of the best, since they are all ungulates, they all rely on bacteria to break down grass to something they can digest directly
Or do you imagine there’s is something else we could grow on that land that was judged only good enough for cattle
I can’t tell if you’re trying to make a bad joke or you really have no idea how this works lol. Or maybe just trying to troll?
Ikr? Like, what do they expect from us here? I’m in favor of finding ways to reduce aspects of cruel commercial industry practices in general, but they also don’t want us to humanely kill any cows, invasive deer, wild pigs and feral chickens for any reason at all? They’ll just completely overgraze the available grassland, decimate crops and orchards, tear up native tree roots in the forests, and/or shit on literally everything while causing property damage. Or just not eat them when we have to cull the population? Seems like a waste. These people just haven’t thought it all through as well as they give themselves credit for.
People on lemmy are more likely to be left wing. More likely than average to be vegan.
Can’t you believe that a meat eater might be at the ethical end of meat eaters? I eat local, I care about food miles, permaculture, grass fed beef and lamb.
That’s what your argument sounds like.