The former president has set sky-high expectations for his own performance in the first contest of the race for the Republican presidential nomination. He spent the day before the caucuses trying to ensure he meets them. His main GOP rivals all spent Sunday in Iowa as well, making last-minute appeals to Iowans open to hearing them.
At a rally in Indianola, Trump said his supporters could fight back against his political enemies, claiming that the four indictments he faces were driven by politics and renewing his false claims about the 2020 election he lost to Democrat Joe Biden.
Many in the crowd wore white and gold caps identifying them as Trump caucus captains who will help round up support for him Monday night.
Again, let’s keep it to an apples to apples comparison. Do you think there’s a difference between immediately self reporting discovered documents, versus ignoring requests for the return of classified documents to the national archives, receiving a subpoena for the documents, have video evidence of moving the subpoenaed documents AFTER they were told to lock up and preserve the documents, which then justified an FBI search?
Which case do you think is worse?
No, there is no difference.
I wish we could compare the server of Clinton but there is no “apple” to compare that.
All 3 acts consist of similar/same problems (if you are going to keep bringing the “apple” analogy every time there are small diference you can but there will never be exaclty the same so never “apples to apples”) All 3 acts took something clasified and put it in to personal property (trump and biden) or public (clinton).
Trump did no go over the other 2 oponents because of this, Biden did go after trump because of it.
The decuments are not the reason they wont let Trump be president, why are we even talking about it? Did Trump comit an insurrection or not, that is the question to answer. Some states (ran by democrats) think they did, other would disagree. Isurrection agains who? He was the president at the time, he gave power to Biden without violence, so… Did he?
“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
We’re talking about the documents because you brought up a litany of misguided claims, and I wanted to go through each one of them individually, without any deflection.
So let me ask you again, when comparing the two cases of mishandling classified documents, you honestly do not see a difference between discovering forgotten documents, self reporting, and turning them in, versus being caught on tape moving files that you were instructed to preserve and further lock up in the same location? Your response will let me know how much effort to spend in this conversation. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink, and I don’t intend to try.
I’ve already responded that question. Need me to respond it again? Again, Im not saying I agree with anything that has happened.
My point is, Democrats are going after their “main oponent” on the next elections trying to get him not to run (something that is undemocratic), dont be sorprice that when (and I say when) Trump wins he would look for those who were trying to get him and get them for stuff they have (everybody in politics has tails thei can be steped on, one of the reason Trump won the first time was he was not a polititian)
I do apriciate you trying to explain your point of view, I think that is the only thing we have left anymore. If people dont talk to eachother ideas wont be transmited. No need for insults even that obviously we dont agree on some things I think we can find comun ground on others (this is what I’ve been trying to do by bringing the misshandeling of info by both parties), would you agree that all 3 cases of misshandeling of information need reprecutions?
I can’t speak to the clinton case because I haven’t had the time to remind myself about the details.
However, based on my experience working with classified data, intentional vs unintentional spillage of data (when data belonging to a higher classification is accessed to a lower classification) is treated very differently, and I believe things like immediately self reporting reflects unintentional spillage, while moving documents after explicitly being told to strengthen the lock and keep them put reflects intentional spillage.
Intentional spillage has many more penalties than unintentional spillage.