• @blazera@lemmy.world
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    58 months ago

    Whenever some Christians are engaging in hate, they avoid people condemning the whole religion thanks to Jesus’s very anti-hate teachings. Judaism doesnt have that. All of the Old Testament’s calls for violence against enemies stand without revision, and no sin is forgiven without sacrifice.

    • @FatCrab
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      138 months ago

      Yea, Judaism has no such thing as a deep and extensive set of rabbinical discourses that are as fundamental as the Torah. Really solid and thoughtful observation.

      • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        28 months ago

        With like 50 pages arguing about how much a woman is worth based on the state of the hymen. No one ever likes to mention what the Talmud has to say on the subject.

        Care to share with the people at home the argument about why the Talmud says you can’t marry on a Friday and the counter argument and the counter counter argument?

        • @FatCrab
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          18 months ago

          Why? What in the world does your arbitrary cherry picked items have to do with the topic at hand? Are you trying to say that that is the entirety of talmudic discourse and that concepts of charity, stewardship, kindness, and growth are nowhere explored in the Talmud? I’m not saying there aren’t many troubling aspects to Jewish liturgical Tesoro tradition. What I am saying is that they’re about in par with any religion and shit like the OP posted is pretty fucking ignorant and dumb.

          • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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            28 months ago

            Care to share with the people at home the argument about why the Talmud says you can’t marry on a Friday and the counter argument and the counter counter argument?

        • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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          48 months ago

          Sure.

          • He is quite clear that no one can speak or reach the father except through him. And that he is the light and way and none other. Not exactly a message of religious tolerance.

          • He affirms all the ancient sexual rules of the OT and even argues that they don’t go far enough. Specifically forbidding a divorced woman from marrying. Not exactly sexually open.

          • When dealing with other ethnic groups he is continuously in contempt of them. Racist

          • The idea of an eternal hell didn’t exist in widely read Jewish writings, we know of only one mention in one book, and plenty of other writings that describe the afterlife much differently. Now comes Jesus who specifically states that ever lasting torment exists and he will judge who gets into heaven or the other place.

          • Not even the family is respected as an institution. We are told that your love for him must be so great that the love of your own family wouldnt measure up to it.

          • The single parable he mentions about slavery doesn’t condemn slavery and in fact demands that humans act as slaves.

          The doctrine the man supposedly preached was that a select few that abandoned their property, their obligations, their family, knew his secret message, and loved him would inherit the kingdom of God and everyone else would go to hell. If you want to worship slightly different, have a sex life, own something of your own, think for yourself, or are unlucky enough to be from a different ethnic group torment awaits you

          • @yarr@feddit.nl
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            28 months ago

            He is quite clear that no one can speak or reach the father except through him. And that he is the light and way and none other. Not exactly a message of religious tolerance.

            By the same standard the pope is hateful. You may or may not agree with this, depending on your opinion of the pope.

            • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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              18 months ago

              Well less hateful since he seems to believe that Jews and Muslims don’t go to hell since they have their own deal worked out and despite his many many flaws he isn’t particularly known for racism.

              Still an ass

              • @yarr@feddit.nl
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                28 months ago

                “A huge asshole, but at least he’s not racist!” – damned by faint praise

    • @kerrigan778@lemmy.world
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      18 months ago

      “That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation. Go and study it.”