• Hominine
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      8 months ago

      I fail to see how not having a modicum of empathy for this person’s family after their horrific death qualifies as “standing up for myself,” but do feel free to explain this worldview in detail.

      • @aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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        128 months ago

        This person would have no second thought at you dying in this car. Or your family. Therefor you are defending and standing up for someone who would trash you. It’s just sad to watch from the outside is all.

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          This person would have no second thought at you dying in this car. Or your family.

          Even if this were true, are we to assume the same of this woman’s grandchildren? Her distant family?
          Regardless, I fail to see the need to laugh at a terrible death, and that is certainly not standing up for anyone’s moral compass but my own.

          The sad state of affairs here is how far you and others like you are removed from your humanity.

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              No, the top level comment refers to laughter and that is specifically what I am speaking out against here.
              And yes, I do have empathy for the family members of this woman and I find it telling that you let that slide by.

              • @aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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                78 months ago

                I haven’t let anything slide by. You are making assumptions about my character simply because I have no empathy for a single person because of their choices that led them to die. Again. I, Me, Santa did not say laughing is okay.

                • Hominine
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                  You jumped into the thread unwittingly then, and I am glad you have some amount of concern for such frivolity at the conclusion of a horrible death.

                  However, I clearly and repeatedly highlighted OP’s and my concern for the family, and yet again you seem to have missed that.

                  • @aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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                    78 months ago

                    Correct. I am ignoring the family aspect of this story as it doesn’t matter. People die in car crashes every single day. A billionaire dying is a good thing imo. Like a dragon being plucked from the story books and laid before society’s feet. I am also very aware of how callous this is. The family does not deserve this. No one deserves this. But they damn sure do not deserve your empathy either imo. They are part of a family benefiting off suffering and doing nothing to stand out against it. They did their part letting themselves benefit from the unempathetic people they called family.

                • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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                  You are making assumptions about my character simply because I have no empathy for a single person because of their choices that led them to die

                  You bet your ass I’m judging your character based on this.

    • @intensely_human@lemm.ee
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      Empathy is not the opposite of standing up for yourself, though thinking so does explain a hell of a lot of leftist politics these days.

      • @aStonedSanta@lemm.ee
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        58 months ago

        Depends on the context of the situation in my opinion but I understand where you are coming from. I’ve found if someone has no empathy for me. I should not return the favor to them as they’ve shown their hand. Does that make me spiteful? Probably. But I really love the quote. “Listen when someone tells you who they are”. As you can tell I’m callous and don’t have empathy for billionaires or ultra rich.

      • barooboodoo (he/him)
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        48 months ago

        This is hilariously stupid, like genuinely ask yourself how Rage Against the Machine would feel about a billionaire dying.

        • Trailblazing Braille Taser
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          Would you consider RATM an authority on how I should feel?

          I mean, fuck billionaires in any sense that actually matters. They shouldn’t get to hoard wealth while real people can’t afford housing, medical care, etc. At the same time, I refuse to laugh at a human being drowning to death. Literally nobody deserves that. I’m also morally opposed to the death penalty.

          Maybe I’m just not hardcore enough.