Chao, the billionaire former CEO of dry bulk shipping giant Foremost Group, tragically died at the age of 50 on Feb. 10 after accidentally backing her car into the pond making a three-point turn.
No, the top level comment refers to laughter and that is specifically what I am speaking out against here.
And yes, I do have empathy for the family members of this woman and I find it telling that you let that slide by.
I haven’t let anything slide by. You are making assumptions about my character simply because I have no empathy for a single person because of their choices that led them to die. Again. I, Me, Santa did not say laughing is okay.
Correct. I am ignoring the family aspect of this story as it doesn’t matter. People die in car crashes every single day. A billionaire dying is a good thing imo. Like a dragon being plucked from the story books and laid before society’s feet. I am also very aware of how callous this is. The family does not deserve this. No one deserves this. But they damn sure do not deserve your empathy either imo. They are part of a family benefiting off suffering and doing nothing to stand out against it. They did their part letting themselves benefit from the unempathetic people they called family.
All of our families seem to have benefited from barbarity, (though I take your point in the here and now.) In addition, I have a hard time blaming those born into that family (particularly the younger members), as none of us choose our birth, and it seems to me that wealth can be as deranging as poverty.
If my words felt calibrated to attack, I apologize and truly appreciate the conversation. You are considerate and I appreciate the handle.
“Wealth can be as deranging as poverty” exactly. The problem is their inherent power from the wealth makes their interactions so much more destructive. Yet most of the time. They are just doing what’s best for their family. It’s hard to be callous tbh but sometimes I feel it’s needed. Lacking empathy is draining as fuck. Lol
The only way in my eyes to become a billionaire is off the suffering of others. So their association and ability to spend that money is their benefit. Whether attained by them or others. They still play an important role in the destruction of those other human beings production and value.
The only way in my eyes to become a billionaire is off the suffering of others.
So what if I brought a $10 insulin vial to market and sold 100 million units?
Is that taking advantage of the suffering of others? How is being a billionaire different than being a millionaire in that sense? Doesn’t money come when you provide something more valuable than the money to someone else?
It depends on how you are viewing the situation and at what point you are declaring ownership. “I” brought. No you and the people who work for you brought it to market. Instead of sharing that wealth with the workers that created the value. You’ve hoarded it to get rich. And created suffering for those workers as their value was stolen from them to line your pockets. So “you” could bring something to market.
Interesting. Having the ability to control empathy and how it’s handed out is a very strong defense mechanism. Surprised you haven’t done it yourself in order to protect yourself from narcissistic people you have met through life. Or maybe you are over analyzing my comment as it’s not like I’m able to turn empathy on and off at will. But factors will affect it. As with all things. Blatantly being empathetic to everything is a recipe for suffering.
I don’t recall saying you should laugh. I recall saying you shouldn’t have empathy.
No, the top level comment refers to laughter and that is specifically what I am speaking out against here.
And yes, I do have empathy for the family members of this woman and I find it telling that you let that slide by.
I haven’t let anything slide by. You are making assumptions about my character simply because I have no empathy for a single person because of their choices that led them to die. Again. I, Me, Santa did not say laughing is okay.
You jumped into the thread unwittingly then, and I am glad you have some amount of concern for such frivolity at the conclusion of a horrible death.
However, I clearly and repeatedly highlighted OP’s and my concern for the family, and yet again you seem to have missed that.
Correct. I am ignoring the family aspect of this story as it doesn’t matter. People die in car crashes every single day. A billionaire dying is a good thing imo. Like a dragon being plucked from the story books and laid before society’s feet. I am also very aware of how callous this is. The family does not deserve this. No one deserves this. But they damn sure do not deserve your empathy either imo. They are part of a family benefiting off suffering and doing nothing to stand out against it. They did their part letting themselves benefit from the unempathetic people they called family.
All of our families seem to have benefited from barbarity, (though I take your point in the here and now.) In addition, I have a hard time blaming those born into that family (particularly the younger members), as none of us choose our birth, and it seems to me that wealth can be as deranging as poverty.
If my words felt calibrated to attack, I apologize and truly appreciate the conversation. You are considerate and I appreciate the handle.
“Wealth can be as deranging as poverty” exactly. The problem is their inherent power from the wealth makes their interactions so much more destructive. Yet most of the time. They are just doing what’s best for their family. It’s hard to be callous tbh but sometimes I feel it’s needed. Lacking empathy is draining as fuck. Lol
Yeah not at all. I love discourse and not arguments. And I dunno I think we had good discourse. 💜
How does the family benefit from suffering?
The only way in my eyes to become a billionaire is off the suffering of others. So their association and ability to spend that money is their benefit. Whether attained by them or others. They still play an important role in the destruction of those other human beings production and value.
So what if I brought a $10 insulin vial to market and sold 100 million units?
Is that taking advantage of the suffering of others? How is being a billionaire different than being a millionaire in that sense? Doesn’t money come when you provide something more valuable than the money to someone else?
It depends on how you are viewing the situation and at what point you are declaring ownership. “I” brought. No you and the people who work for you brought it to market. Instead of sharing that wealth with the workers that created the value. You’ve hoarded it to get rich. And created suffering for those workers as their value was stolen from them to line your pockets. So “you” could bring something to market.
That isn’t $1b of wealth or profit. You did not do that alone either.
You bet your ass I’m judging your character based on this.
Have you ever looked at the Darwin awards and laughed? Damn you are just as bad as me!
Of course I have. I bet a lot of those people would laugh at their own deaths too, if they could see them afterward.
But that has nothing to do with empathy.
Being able to turn your empathy off at will, seeing empathy as a thing you can control, that tells me about your character.
You might not like that this reveals information about you, but it does.
Interesting. Having the ability to control empathy and how it’s handed out is a very strong defense mechanism. Surprised you haven’t done it yourself in order to protect yourself from narcissistic people you have met through life. Or maybe you are over analyzing my comment as it’s not like I’m able to turn empathy on and off at will. But factors will affect it. As with all things. Blatantly being empathetic to everything is a recipe for suffering.