I wonder how much time they wasted trying to save a dollar on postage.
I don’t know but at $15 an hour, you’re getting paid a quarter a minute and last I checked the stamp was like $.59
Jan. 21, 2024 new rates include a 2-cent increase in the price of a First-Class Mail Forever stamp, from 66 cents to 68 cents.
Bullshit I bought forever stamps… 5-10 years ago… so… that!!!
I’m not sure sovcits are holding down jobs.
The funny part is some of them are, but arguing with their boss that they are exempt from taxes which always ends up badly for them.
Leading to them eventually being fired, hence their (previous commenter) wondering about them (sovs) “holding” jobs.
Why do all SovCits have the worst handwriting?
They aren’t entirely literate, so writing is awkward for them.
Edit: And I actually don’t mean that as a dig. A huge percentage of the American populace is functionally illiterate or close to it.
It’s the same family of like 5 people 😂
Ehh… You should see mine.
In truth, mine isn’t great either. It’s not all shaky and squiggly like these folks, though, just sloppy.
Same with mine. Mine is ugly, but it is technically usually readable. But to figure mine out you don’t have to relearn everything you thought you knew about how life works. With them you never know what word will come next with their word salad, but when I write something that’s not readable the meaning will be able to be guessed or surmised.
But then, who actually handwrites anything anymore? Other than a signature I mean. And I’m not just talking about the objective waste of existence that is cursive (at least at the moment, I have opinions on that too tho). Even basic hand writing is all but completely useless now. And the little things it is still used for are fading day by day.
“they want you to forget cursive because that’s what the Declaration of Independence used, if you can’t read it, you don’t know what it says” - sovereign citizen, probably.
)I still write things by hand because it seems to engage another part of my brain to help me remember. I can remember most of a shopping list that I’ve written down, even if I forgot the list itself. I have so little patience for forming words, and cursive actually can be written so much faster than print once it becomes second nature. I’ve fallen into a weird hybrid of cursive and print that defaults to whichever letter is able to be formed fastest. If you never got to the point where cursive happened “accidentally” then yeah I guess it can seem pointless, but it can be super useful with enough proficiency.
I guess that’s true now that you mention it. I never studied throughout high school but if I took notes on it I just knew it. 99% of the notes I took never even got looked at once after moving on to the next page, but I knew that stuff. Maybe this kind of thing is one of the last few uses to die. And this in and of itself won’t prevent it from becoming extinct eventually.
Dude I write the same way but I’ll do you one better. It’s a weird combination of cursive, print, upper case AND lower case letters. Just depends what would flow better from the previous letter and it can also vary depending on the type of writing instrument I’m holding.
Probably a central tremor caused by chronic stress, can be a symptom of bipolar or schizophrenia.
It’s called essential tremor btw. And it’s not a symptom of bipolar as far as I know. That’s more psychomotor agitation.
Yeah, my step-dad thinks he has them, but we all know it’s the DTs.
You can have a tremor from alcohol withdrawal without it being the DTs. The DTs are extremely strong convulsions with hallucinations.
Source: am an alcoholic.
It’s the meth that makes you shaky.
Pills
Hey, it’s much nicer than mine. It’s legible!
I’m trying to decide if my favorite part about sovcits is their absolute cognitive dissonance, or the fact that they have a supreme knack for cherry-picking parts of US law they expect to have applied to or for them when they want to omit everything else in it.
My favourite part is how absolutely taken aback they are when one of their schemes doesn’t work.
In a similar way, I love how it’s not just that it didn’t work, but they get mad because they think the other party is lying about it. Like the utility company knows full well they have to take whatever worthless coupon is offered, but are just refusing because they think the SovCit will give up.
Wait til their welfare check comes in the form of those worthless coupons.
I’m still trying to figure out if any sovshit or “first amendment auditor” has ever had a job. All the ones you find posting their own idiotic videos seem to have a lot of time to argue about everything. Literally everyone else in the world is just trying to get something done and move on with life, but every time a sov is involved, they just pull up a chair and will physically die on that “hill” before agreeing to move on or cooperate.
They are going to be so pissed when they find out that the postal service can reject their letter because the sending or receiving party does not have a mailbox of an acceptable shape, size or made of acceptable material.
U.S. Postal Service STD-7B01
Postal Service, Code of Federal Regulations 39 CFR Part 111, Standard 7A, Mailboxes, City and Rural Curbside
See, I can look up random laws on Wikipedia too!
they cherry-pick The Bible; it’s totally on-brand.
It’s actually a little smarter than most of these idiots. At least he can honestly say he “tried” to pay the bill. It’s not his fault the USPS took his envelope and had it destroyed because it was a biohazard.
At a certain point you spend more wasting your time writing all that crap than you would spend just buying a stamp.
Yes. That’s why the rest of us don’t go to war with bureaucracy on a daily basis.
Is that a finger print?
Possibly in blood. Yuck.
Yes and probably in blood I would imagine…
Blood dries very dark red or brown on paper. It might look different in person but based on the pic I don’t think it’s blood, just red ink. That said I wouldn’t blame anyone handling it for putting gloves on because whoever sent this is clearly unhinged.
Seems like good news if you are in the Postal Service. If it has blood on it you get to seal it in a bag and not have to deal with it 
Yes , a sovcit trope is that a red ink and thumbprint or fingerprint magically do something.
The Dickens.
I wonder if it’s like their postage or seal or something.
Hi, quick question. Is this all this sub is now? Sovcit posts? It’s getting pretty fucking old really fucking fast.
Have you contributed anything?
Damn
I don’t have to be a chef to know a restaurant’s food sucks.
Do you have to poop on all the tables, though?
Shhhh I wanna hear the crazies
Yeah you can also add some variety to the menu if you like! We’re a cool content restaurant like that 😎
Fuck these people, I’m with you. I don’t have to be a creator to know what I don’t like.
I’m over the sovcit stuff. It’s all the same at this point.
Byof. Bring your own food (in this analogy food is memes).
Feel free to either contribute some of the variety you’re looking for, or block the community if it’s gotten old for you.
I’m loving it. Should sovcitz be a it’s own comm? Probably. But for now it’s a good laugh here.
Lemmy already has a problem with over-fracturing. The user base isn’t big enough to have a dedicated community for every possible topic, there’s gonna be some blurry boundaries.
And if the only person putting content on this community is SovCit focused…that’s what we’ve got. If you want to see change, you must be the change.
Exactly. Well said.
Aside from those blurry boundaries, they are also blurred by the fact that different instances have communities for the same things.
It is what you want it to be. Problem is few people on Lemmy would be willing to be on Facebook to begin with, let alone join a group of insane people on that platform. OP is doing work for the enjoyment of all of us.
Feel free to add your own content if you don’t feel this is crazy enough for you.
Quick answer. Yes.
I think it’ll get rejected because it doesn’t say ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
WITH PREJUDICE*
Or was it WITHOUT? All that magic mumbo-jumbo is so confusing.
Personally I think the mindfully placed Bible in the background of the shot is my favorite part of this gong show of a post.
Maybe he should put all that shit onto a cover sheet instead of doing unreadable scribbles all over the envelope…
Magic words go on…inside?
I’m afraid you’re right.
Nah that one’s got a thumb print it’s legit.
What makes them think that American laws protect them if they arent Americans?
What is the deal with these people? Other than obvious mental illness I mean.
Apparently, a lot of them are trying to find a way to avoid paying child support.
It makes them feel powerful. They have the hidden incantation that sets them above the rest of the proles. I would imagine the venn diagram of flat earthers and sovereign citizens overlaps a lot.
Also absolves them of contributing to society completely. They’re freeloaders
I mean they are living somewhere. They are paying rent to somebody and that person is paying property taxes.
Plus they are contributing to this community.
Do you know anything about sovcits? They send these same letters to their landlords and they wouldn’t pay rent if they could.
Other people are paying their internet bills and phones, and uploading content here, while others host it. Again these idiots contribute nothing. There’s plenty of other shit to post about.
They are freeloaders.
I’ve read that legal opinion and have fought them in court so yes I do.
https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html
You have a point. They would be pretty quickly evicted if they just stopped paying rent and started spouting this bullshit. I would wager that virtually all sovereign citizens are paying rent to someone. E: Actually let me revise this. I’d wager most are in prison. Of the ones that aren’t, I’d wager most are paying rent.
But it takes their whole government check, (which they make sure is paid to them in actual dollars, not coupons) so they try to get everything else for free. You quickly notice not one of them ever has any money or job.
First amendment auditors or “constitutional scholars” are in the club as well.
They get convinced by someone on the internet that the government is all a scam and pay large sums of money to some guru to learn their methods, who then vanish into the ether as their new student loses their home or car.
Sovcits have roots in white supremacy.
This is the treatise on sovereign citizens, doesn’t mention anything about white supremacy and I’ve never heard of that connection. Can you elaborate?
https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.html
From Wikipedia. Christian Identity is the white supremacist “religion”.
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What does Christian identity have to do with sovereign citizens? Link is broken for me.
I’m sorry! The idea was born out of the Christian Identity movement in the 1970s as part of the Posse Comitatus, a far right anti government movement who claimed that debt and taxes were an example of Jewish control over the state. Here is an article; https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/1998/hate-group-expert-daniel-levitas-discusses-posse-comitatus-christian-identity-movement-and
