Intel accused of inflating CPU benchmark results::SPEC says Intel’s Xeon processors were using a compiler that artificially inflated the results of its industrial benchmark by as much as 9%.

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    9 months ago

    So you’re saying that the CPU burning out when the cooler is removed, is the thermal safety working as intended? Sorry, I am not familiar with the situation, but the way you initially described the issue doesn’t sound like foul play.

    Edit: y’all are simping for a $300 billion dollar company rn lol

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      The cooler falling off is an impossible situation. It’s a completely bullshit metric. Intel CPUs of the time ran hotter, used more power, and had lower IPC, hence the higher clock speeds but lower actual performance. They had to invent some bullshit to make themselves look good.

      Besides, just a while before that generation thermal safety wasn’t even a thing, if you remove the cooler from older Intel processors it just catches fire lol

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        The cooler falling off is an impossible situation. It’s a completely bullshit metric.

        I don’t disagree - I can’t imagine that ever happening in real life. But taking the cooler off while it’s running? I can definitely envision my idiot 13-year-old self doing that back when I was building my first PC.

        Intel CPUs of the time ran hotter, used more power, and had lower IPC, hence the higher clock speeds but lower actual performance. They had to invent some bullshit to make themselves look good.

        Given this information, I probably still would have gone with the Athlon. Are you saying that a report about a very-difficult-to-trigger defect in the thermal safety single-handedly convinced thousands/millions of potential customers to choose the Pentium instead?

        Besides, just a while before that generation thermal safety wasn’t even a thing, if you remove the cooler from older Intel processors it just catches fire lol

        I’m guessing that’s why thermal safety was a selling point, no?

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          It was part a larger unethical media campaign and bribery chain by Intel. They did their damn best to hurt AMD, and they managed to pull it off, but some time later AMD brought their asses to court and sued over it, with literally billions in damages and agreements that Intel had to pay.

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            some time later AMD brought their asses to court and sued over it, with literally billions in damages and agreements that Intel had to pay.

            A ha! This part of the story hasn’t been brought up yet, and it sounds like it would completely change my opinion.

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              https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5AB2LL/

              AMD has argued that Intel used illegal means to preserve its 80 percent share of the global market for central processing units, which are the brains of personal computers. Regulators in Asia and Europe have agreed, imposing fines and other remedies on Intel. The U.S. Federal Trade Commission is close to filing its own complaint, sources have said.

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                9 months ago

                I read that article and looked around a bit, and I can’t find anything related to AMD’s thermal safety mechanisms. What am I missing?

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                  It’s a broad series of court proceedings and shit and it covers a broad range of anti-trust, this article is more of a summary. You can try finding the actual court documents if you’re that interested

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                    It’s starting to sound like you have never seen any evidence that reporting on a rare AMD thermal safety defect is an intricate Intel psyop, or whatever the claim is.

                    My first comment in this thread simply asked for an explanation as to how a reported (and again, unimportant) defect in AMD chips is somehow Intel’s fault. I guess it was silly of me to expect a straight answer from AMDIsOurLord.