Religion is perfect for making normal people act like a bunch of sociopaths.
” Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.”
You gotta source that quote, fam. I wanna know ^^
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful
Lucius Annaeus Seneca. All it took was copying the line into Google. I’m surprised how often people forget that they can do this.
Yeah, but have you tried Googling that “quote” supposedly from Madonna?
I was hoping you guys might think I was clever enough to come up with it.
/s
Religion is exploited by actual sociopaths to justify their behavior.
Religion is exploited by actual sociopaths to justify their behavior.
(most forms of) Religion is constructed to be exploited by actual sociopaths to justify their behavior.
FTFY
“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion.”
– Steven Weinberg
I tried to come up with a more palatable comment, and all I can think of to say is “fuck these stupid jackasses”.
Naw, that about sums it up. It’s depressing and pathetic.
It works for me.
Can you imagine your purpose in life being “the guy who makes sure people’s scarves are good enough”?
Oh they salivate for it. Some people will jump at any chance to be a fascist.
“Oh no the Ferengi don’t want to stop the exploitation. We want to become the exploiters!”
Can you imagine your purpose in life being “the guy who makes sure people’s scarves are good enough”?
A more accurate interpretation: Can you imaginer your purpose in life being the guy who directly enforces oppression of women?
They get off of the idea.
Can you imagine being rewarded with sex?
You’ve mentioned this twice now but what do you mean?
I mean that Iranian culture continues to support this.
It’s not just the men, it’s the women too. Otherwise most babies would be born from rape, which isn’t the case.
The men beating girls to death get paid and spend that money to please their wives, who in turn reward them with sex.
It’s a pretty simple concept.
That was a weird journey
Nah. Just an unfortunate truth people would rather not acknowledge.
Do you disagree with anything I said?
I don’t think sex is a reward for the man in most relationships. That’s not how it works. Marital relationships are much more complicated than that and very varied.
I mean, they’re doing what makes them look good in front of their women. Otherwise they wouldn’t be doing it.
You can say it’s for companionship or to look good in front of peers, but the end result in the same.
Do you really think life is this simple? What I see is men do things that they were taught to do to funcion in a given society, things they need to do to survive, things they like doing just for themselves (a very good motivation) and occasionally also things to look good in front of women (not necessarilly theirs). I think in most marriages men display a mixture of behaviours the woman likes and dislikes (sometimes even hates). Despite doing things the woman hates, a man can still often have sex with her either because she also sees the good things, she wants sex and is willing to overlook the bad things or she has no power to choose otherwise… life is really complicated. If men did only things women liked, the world would be completely different.
I mean, at the end of the day the wives either approve of their husbands actions and reward them or don’t. To them, it’s better to be with a man who gets paid to kill little girls than one that doesn’t. That’s why they’re with them, lol.
Yeah, it really is that simple. Sorry you’re trying to overcomplicate things.
I think your ‘oversimplicity’ argument would hold more water against those saying it’s just the men of iran who are to blame.
Not at all.
Does this mean all of the protests from a few months back are done?
They’re probably banking on protesters not being able to use Twitter to organize.
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Future generations are laughing it up.
Centralized services like twitter and reddit are going to go the way of Sears.
It’s got to be hard to maintain the momentum once the government decides they’re fine with murdering the protesters. The Iranian government also let women go without headscarves for this long, I imagine as a way to let the temperature cool. They never intended to repeal the law, only let the protests disperse letting the protesters think they’d won that small concession.
Yep. Nothing of value was accomplished, unfortunately.
I guess reasoning with your abusers wasn’t the best course of action.
"Morality police " rapists and co come up with the fanciest names for themselves.
It’s time for organised Iranians to start making Basijis disappear.
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“morality” 🤣😂😭
Religion.what a fucking joke.
Hopefully they protest even harder now, but we’ll see.
In the end, they could be executed. It won’t be easy.
Isn’t that why the protests started in the first place? A girl was beat to death by them? I don’t see what they’ve got to lose.
They could be executed themselves. The stakes are very high.
I do wish the women of Iran the best. I hope they still have the will to fight.
Woman, Life, Freedom
As I said months ago. In a war between the diet version of something and the pure version, the diet one always loses.
It wasnt about a secular government and freedom to not worship, it was about the rules being relaxed a bit. You don’t fight to the death for showing your hair you fight to the death for sky-daddy.
Until they are willing to burn korans they will continue to live in a theocratic state.
What are the Democrats the diet version of?
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corporate butt-kissers (as in: the republicans are deeper up corporate anuses)
Begging the question.
I’m not debating anything you said, just making conversation. I liked your idea of diet vs. pure, but wasn’t able to figure out if it fits into American politics as they currently exist.
I think it doesn’t, because Dems aren’t very well characterized by the “pure/diet” dichotomy.
fight back
Since Iranian men can’t control themselves, women have to cover up.
A lot of the protesters were also men. Several of them had been shot and killed
Blame the oppressive government and religion, not the people. They’re the victims.
Dumb question, but the headscarf’s purpose is to cover the women’s hair, right? So what if all protesting women go bald to piss the religious guys off, would that work?
I guarantee you, they’ll think it’s a dumb question because the abusers will just attack any women who shaves her head. They don’t actually care.
It will take solidarity among the Iranian people or outside intervention to fix these problems. Unfortunately, a lot of Iranian women are also rewarding the men who do this with sex.
And that’s what religion does.
