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    Henry Cavill will appear in Deadpool & Wolverine as a multiverse variant of Wolverine. His version will be wearing a long brown coat when he shows up,

    So not main wolverine, but a second, cooler wolverine.

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      cooler than Hugh Jackman? Formerly Huge Jackedman? I like Cavill but he defined Wolverine for me for, what, 15 years?

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        15? I hate to do this to you buddy, but the original X-Men movie was 2000. With this movie, Jackman will have been Wolverine for 24 years.

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          that’s on me, lol, I searched for “Wolverine movie” and the internet pulled up “The Wolverine” which was not his first appearance

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        I remember when the casting was released for the original X-Men, the Fanboys were losing their mind, saying it was the worst super hero casting of all time, and how he looked nothing like Wolverine. Fan castings always aim for the exact look of a character and don’t consider acting talent, so people were originally upset that Jackman is tall, they seriously wanted an actor who was jacked and like 5’5".

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          Let’s be real, though, this was pre-Y2K, it was much harder to gage a fandom’s reaction to casting at the time. I don’t remember much complaints at all on the forums I was on, though I do remember Steward’s casting was celebrated.

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      I’d be annoyed about yet another multiverse story with yet another cameo from a different version of the character, but given this is Deadpool, I trust it will give the worn out trend the satirical treatment it deserves right now.

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        So basically Deadpool is just Shrek but for super hero movies

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          Basically yeah, and like the Shrek movies the Deadpool movies are some of the better films in the genre it is parodying.

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          Kind of. Depends on what the writer wants to do. Deadpool’s versatile like that.

          But generally speaking, Deadpool’s 4th wall breaking has often been used to comment on or satirize the industry. Sometimes the stories themselves become a parody.

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      I absolutely love Cavill. He’s been in plenty of sub-par projects, but he himself never fails to commit to each role and he always kills it.

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          Unfortunately he is just way too devoted to the source material, which they couldn’t really use for their show. So Cavill really has been shooting his own foot. He wasn’t willing to compromise, even though he knew the show wasn’t supposed to be 1 to 1 telling.

          So how do you deal with someone who signed on for X and than tried turning into their own thing?

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            The source material is what keeps it from just being another generic fantasy setting with stereotypical characters, which is what the writers were turning The Witcher into in the very first season, and I heard it got worse from there but stopped watching.

            Great adaptations keep the important bits. Cavill trying to keep the important bits was the only reason the show wasn’t worse. The writers and producers were the ones who signed on for a Witcher project and tried to turn it into their own.

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              Cavill reportedly badgered his agent to let him meet with The Witcher showrunner Lauren Schmidt-Hissrich as she recalls him being “really annoying” with his insistence on playing the lead role in the series that (at the time) she hadn’t even begun writing yet

              Yeah, no the show had no intentions of telling the same story from the start.

              Cavill messed everything up before even starting, this is entirely on him for pushing his way into a show and demanding what he wanted instead of what everyone else was doing.

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                  Why make multiple video games that have nothing to do with the source material as well? Very few adaptations are 100% faithful to the source material, lots tell alternate ideas, it’s hilarious that people think this one should be the outlier. The other media in this universe already has nothing to do with the books already lmfao.

                  It’s called telling additional stories or fleshing out other stories.

                  The Witcher could be a vast universe with multiple stories to tell, why tell the same one multiple times?

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              I think you are kind of assuming he was only keeping the important bits and wasn’t being stubborn. We actually have no idea what the dynamic was truly like and who was “right.”

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                We know Cavill wanted to do a Witcher show, we know the writer’s changed things significantly, and Cavill left the show. A writer that left was the one who brought up the other writer’s mocking the source material, so it wasn’t only Cavill that seemed to have an issue. Then there are the fans, who also did not appreciate the changes.

                Why try to put the blame on one actor for being stubborn when the situation is the commonly seen Hollywood adaptation leaves out important details from the source?

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            Other way around.
            He signed on to make the Witcher series, true to the books.

            They moved it away from that, and audiences turned away from it.

            Cavill was right.

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              Where did you hear that? Thats not even remotely what happened.

              Cavill reportedly badgered his agent to let him meet with The Witcher showrunner Lauren Schmidt-Hissrich as she recalls him being “really annoying” with his insistence on playing the lead role in the series that (at the time) she hadn’t even begun writing yet

              Yeah, no the show had no intentions of telling the same story from the start. Cavill pushed himself into a show and badgered them to get what he wanted which was entirely different than what was planned.

              He fucked everything up before it even started.

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                the show had no intentions of telling the same story from the start

                Are you saying they intended for the show to be even further from the source material? Maybe don’t call the show “The Witcher” then.

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            He signed on for a Witcher adaptation. The TV show is original series inspired by the Witcher, not an adaptation.

            Anybody sane didn’t expect a 1 to 1 retelling - that would frankly be a bad adaptation. And I did like some of the new stuff. But they took the spirit of the books and completely threw it out of the window.

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              Nobody has said anything about a 1:1 adaptation, and these things can have a sliding scale. It is possible to keep certain elements while rearranging and editing a story for different mediums. You do understand it is people who write these things, yeah? Theyre not like, handed down from on high and then filmed. Also: The Last of Us.

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                It is possible to keep certain elements while rearranging and editing a story for different mediums.

                I mean yeah, that’s what I’m saying - a good adaptation, changing things to fit the medium, rearranging to tell the story better etc., that’s all good.

                What Witcher did is they took the rough skeleton of the overall story and practically build original story on thay skeleton. Especially season 2 has almost nothing in common with the book they were adapting. The story started and ended in roughly the same spot, everything in between was made up.

                Also I feel whatever they rearranged was for the worse and made the story make less impactful.

                You do understand it is people who write these things, yeah? Theyre not like, handed down from on high and then filmed.

                Not sure what you meant by this.

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                  What Witcher did is they took the rough skeleton of the overall story and practically build original story on thay skeleton

                  Huh… Just like revered games did… funny how it’s fine there, but not on the show.

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            Hard disagree. In my opinion as a fan of the games and books, the changes from the source material all negatively impacted the show, to the point that the star was no longer interested in participating.

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              Cavill reportedly badgered his agent to let him meet with The Witcher showrunner Lauren Schmidt-Hissrich as she recalls him being “really annoying” with his insistence on playing the lead role in the series that (at the time) she hadn’t even begun writing yet

              Yeah, no the show had no intentions of telling the same story from the start.

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                No one cares what the show runner wanted to do with the Witcher property. The reality is Henry Cavill is a huge fan of the books and video games. There are several interviews of him discussing while filming how he used that info to create an accurate portrayal that worked on screen. It wasn’t until the show deviated from the primary story of the books that Henry decided to leave. And that shows in the viewership from when the news broke that he was leaving which was also around the time that Netflix released original stories on the witcher universe that bombed. The show runner made the show worse despite Henry cavills best efforts to keep it accurate and entertaining.

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            Im gonna need a detailed indepth explanation of why source material was impossible to use for an adaptation of said source material.

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              The same way the games didn’t, they were using the universe to tell an alternate story.

              This isn’t a hard concept to grasp or anything.

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        Man from U.N.K.L.E. is IMHO a very good movie. It also showcases how Henry could have been a humorous 007 akin to Roger Moore’s rendition.

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        He’s one of those actors that could take a low tier super hero and turn it into a household name, if he’s put into the wider MCU I hope it’s playing a lesser known hero that deserves the recognition

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          He’s one of those actors that could take a low tier super hero and turn it into a household name

          100% agree, what he did with this one DC hero named Superman was pretty fantastic!

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            Tbf superman had become low tier after Brandon Routh and how bad dc was dropping the ball on the Superman comics at the time

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    As much as I love Cavill, I just don’t see him in this role. Speaking of which, could we maybe, just maybe cast a shorter actor this time around?

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    I love seeing him talk about building his own gaming pc and a few clips where he talks about painting Warhammer miniatures. He gets quite excited. 🤓

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        Camera angles and apple boxes can fix that. I bet they can just shrink him digitally.

        Also, Henry Cavill is three inches taller than Jared Keeso: 6’1" (185 cm) vs. 5’10" (177 cm). Hugh Jackman is 6’3" (190 cm).

        So since they’re shrinking the actor two inches per movie maybe they’ll pick Jared next.

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      I doubt the guy from Letterkenny is going to end up in a Marvel movie. He’s got too much 'tegridy

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        He’d make an amazing Wolverine, though. And since Wolverine is canonically Canadian it would be more accurate.

        In my perfect Wolverine movie, Keeso would be the lead and Jacob Tierney would direct.