• TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    I still think it’s utterly useless technology for almost everyone on the planet. You are propagating fear rather than diplomacy and good nature.

    This claim requires an unrealistic interpretation of reality to make any sense. He isn’t propagating fear, he is responding to a threat. Do you think it’s a smart idea to engage in diplomacy with a person who is armed and views you as sub-human?

    don’t think 99 percent of guns need to exist. If we could get help for all those people so hurt by their place where they don’t go mass murder children I would love THAT technology be sold and put on the pedestal guns do.

    That’s great, I too wish humans were reasonable and peace loving entities. However, that doesn’t change the fact that the most racist and violent demographics in this country are also the most armed.

    Because guns have more rights than women. And it’s disgusting

    But what exactly does this have to do with leftist arming themselves against the increasing threat of political violence?

    They still do one thing. End a life and make it easy for anyone to do it.

    Yeah… That’s kind of the point of any weapon. Your rhetoric seems to be suggesting that we are debating the very idea of if guns should exist as a concept. Not the reality of what to do when a large percent of the population already has them, and are training in groups to utilize them in political or racial violence.

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      Who is coming at me with arms? Who have I provoked such a response from? It is a fantasy to believe you are that important. People don’t randomly go and fire guns when people aren’t in the middle of their protest or any other people.

      Safe to say, gun violence is put on kids because the neck beards have nothing better to do than target those that can’t defend themselves.

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        Who is coming at me with arms? Who have I provoked such a response from?

        Lol, I know this may be hard to accept, but this is not about you. If you have enough privilege to live in an area where people don’t already have preconceptions of criminality based on your race…good for you.

        Some of us live in dangerous areas, some of us are not the same color as you, some of us have already experienced racial violence, some of us love people who are being targeted for their sexual preferences.

        This is the most privileged take I’ve ever seen on Lemmy, and that’s quite the high bar. You are effectively claiming that any victim of violence must have somehow provoked it.

        People don’t randomly go and fire guns when people aren’t in the middle of their protest or any other people.

        I guess you’re just ignoring violent hate crimes?

        Safe to say, gun violence is put on kids because the neck beards have nothing better to do than target those that can’t defend themselves.

        What was that?

        target those that can’t defend themselves.

        Hmmm, that seems to me like a good reason to be able to defend yourself?

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          You mean when the guys with guns that are hired to protect the kids without guns didn’t protect anyone? Yea. You are adorable thinking that you convince anyone with such arguments.

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            You mean when the guys with guns that are hired to protect the kids without guns didn’t protect anyone?

            It’s almost like the state apparatus that is supposed to protect is failing in multiple ways? No what does that strawman have to do with mutual aid and protection networks?

            The book I was talking about wasn’t about theory, it was accounts of actual events. Often with the primary source being a person who partook or benefited from the mutual aid network.

            It’s not really about tactics or personal defense, it’s about how important community building is for disadvantaged groups. About how sometimes similar to your early example, the state fails to protect these groups from radical political violence.

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        “Who have I provoked such a response from?” hahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha ah yes “if a brownshirt was after me I would simply explain that I am no threat and then the brown shirt would calm down, everyone who died must have done something to provoke the brownshirt” man my guy dude man cease