Why yes, there is a vast world devouring monster with its tendrils encircling all of us, and it’s plainly visible once you notice it, and it’s everywhere. But you come off as insane when you try to tell other people about it.
Is SCP-3125 an allegory for capitalism? Shit.
Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself sad.
Now your dreams will never again be so peaceful. You will see capital in your nights, like a nightmare, that presses you and threatens to crush you. With terrified eyes you will see it get fatter, like a monster with one hundred proboscises that feverishly search the pores of your body to suck your blood. And finally you will learn to assume its boundless and gigantic proportions, its appearance dark and terrible, with eyes and mouth of fire, morphing its suckers into enormous hopeful trumpets, within which you’ll see thousands of human beings disappear: men, women, children. Down your face will trickle the sweat of death, because your time, and that of your wife and your children will soon arrive. And your final moan will be drowned out by the happy sneering of the monster, glad with your state, so much richer, so much more inhumane.
—Carlo Cafiero, Summary of Marx’s Capital
Gonna start telling gamers that capitalism is the Amygdala perched on top of Yharnam Cathedral
Lovecraft was basically translating his alienation with capitalism into short stories. Unfortunately, being a reactionary for most his life, he punched down instead of up, and his fears were pointed at minorities and women and air conditioners instead of the pervasive system itself.
Honestly that’s what makes his stories good imo, shows that liberalism is ultimately the fear of the big Other that is represented by minorities and how its inherent.
Lmao nice to see Cold Air get a reference instead of his usual stuff people talk about
Hasn’t anyone written modern leftist horror in his style?
Depending on your views of NK Jemisin, The City We Became is arguably an example of this.
Thanks, I can just imagine the stuff lovecraft wrote but leftist, it really isn’t that impossible. I kinda feel like Rats in the Wall is about aristocracy and old money, though it also has the cat.
I also found a reading of the book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0nQm1tzZY
Debord is like They Live glasses. I try to put the glasses on someone else and it leads to a prolonged fight scene over the way it’s written. I just want to tell them, “LOOK AT THE APHORISMS. LOOK.”
The most timeless of all emojis: :debord-tired:
Was Rowdy Roddy Piper a marxist? :thinkin-lenin:
Man grew up in Winnipeg, it’s quite possible that the deep socialist history of the city affected him even if he didn’t realize it himself.
Any recommendations for someone who’s unfamiliar with his work and wants to learn more and ruin their own sanity a bit more?
His most circulated work, Society of the Spectacle, is both a book and a film by the same name. The film has alot of vivid visuals to help reinforce what’s being gotten at in the written work.
To be clear though, the film is not it’s own work; it is the book as narration with scenes as visual aides. (I hope I described that adequately)
CW for nudity and war footage though
E: Also if I remember correctly the scenes don’t quite match the narration in the English version of the film, and for a “correct” viewing you should watch French with English subtitles so that the timing is correct.
Yeah I used to jokingly call it forbidden knowledge awhile ago.
It’s the knowledge the people SHOULD have though, so I changed my perspective on it a bit even jokingly
Sometimes, although I still retain a mix of criticism. According to one of my :LIB: history professors, who I still respect the word of greatly, Marx got plenty of things right but not all of them. For example, I don’t like Marx’s wish to abolish religion. Religion helps tie people together and we have various subs for Jewish, Christian, and Muslim comrades. However, I think I might be misunderstanding Marx as I know he mentioned citing “Christian asceticism” for some of his inspiration.
That, and both Fidel Castro, MLK, and John Brown cited :jesus-cleanse: for some of their inspiration.
Marx wasn’t a big fan of religion, he just saw it as largely a tool wielded by the monarchs (and now capital) to enthrall the workers to their masters. Which is largely a correct reading of Christianity’s role in feudal and primitive capitalist Europe.
Religion also played a large role in Colonialism through missionary stuff.
Once you actually analyze Marx’s criticism of religion, he’s not really criticizing the concept of a God, just the material consequences of the religious superstructure as he had seen is in Europe, America, and the colonies.
His call for an atheist state was more a call for an abandonment of the religious superstructure that had intertwined itself into European politics. Basically a more clear version of the American separation of church and state idea.
You can also see how this actually played out, with the church serving as a bastion for anti-communist activity in the USSR, even today American churches are used as NGO agents of American capital interests, same as the colonial missionaries. There’s a reason the religious superstructure of America has shifted so heavily towards prosperity gospel and mega-churches, because religion is not a revolutionary force, but a blank slate that will be used by the existing political economic order to enforce and entrench it’s hegemony.
“Cold War Christianity” was probably the best known in the West result of this phenomenon, and it’s still fucking up multiple countries. There’s sort of this narrative in a lot of churches of “the Holy Cold War” and the Cold War as essentially a modern Crusade. It’s kind of funny when you take a step back, but if you were raised Catholic, you know exactly what I’m trying to say and the deep “mundane horror” I’m getting at. It’s a hell of an interesting “if you know, you know, and if you haven’t lived in and seen it, you’d probably think I’m completely insane”. I could absolutely write fiction set in a highly reactionary Catholic school, drawing from the horror I perceived attending one, and have people who’ve never attended one call it either funny or a very strange take on horror as a genre, while people who have just nod and say “yep, that author’s one of us”.
Yeah, it’s like looking at Chthulhu. You won’t be able to really explain to others what you’ve seen, and it’s too big to really get at all at once anyway.
and we can only really see the shadow it’s casting on the world?
I mean, arguably that’s the purpose of Marx’s dialectical method in Capital. You can’t just glance around at random and arrive at a self-consistent conclusion about the broader abstract structures of capitalism. You have to just keep clawing at it until you arrive at some binding kernel of truth.
This is a good videogame premise ngl, you’d just have to make the enemies fascist in order to make things palitable
I personally love that feeling of clarity and dread that comes with reading a good dose of theory. When everything clicks into place and you can see the monstrosity of capitalism animating everything from behind the veil of normalcy. Makes me feel better knowing I’m living in a horror novel.
Ya’ll ever feel like learning theory does to your brain what Lovecraftian eldritch horror is meant to do?
Naw, reality does that part, theory just allows you to see it
I don’t know if I’m just disassociating or becoming more socially reclusive as I get older, but I get more disappointed in people the more theory I read. I pick up more and more on imperialist stuff they say, or latent bigotries, or how they can’t seem to say anything sympathetic about the homeless. It’s nearly everyone I meet unless they’re a self-identified leftist but even leftists sometimes still do it.
I probably do it too and I don’t even notice, which is probably the most horrifying aspect of all. I can’t even trust myself to be free of the ideological poison that permeates everything, but I certainly see it in others and I hate it. I hate seeing it when people turn glass eyed and spout off some propaganda embedded within them or something homophobic or transphobic and it’s just depressing. People often have such an energy and a life, they have their own pursuits and what they want to live for, but their brains are actively being choked by capitalism and living in the first world that they can’t help themselves. They offload their brains to the superstructure, because that’s all they know.
The most insidious aspect is the lack of trust I often feel. Like you have to know an exceptionally generous person or have an established history for them to help you do stuff like run errands or maybe drive you somewhere or whatever else. Chronic or long term favors are to be established, not just the default. It’s even worse with coworkers because I have a good relationship with a lot of mine. A lot of them are good people and I’ve done tons of favors for them and they’ve done so for me as well. I have no idea how our relationship would change once money gets involved. Would they try to compete with me for a promotion? Would this sour everything between us? I have no idea. Would they treat me differently if I were their subordinate? Again, no idea and it’s horrifying to consider. I’m here imagining situations in which people I know have their humanity stripped from them in service of some irrational, abstract thing that has tendrils in all of us.
Yeah it’s pretty eldritch
Welcome to the desert of the real.
If you don’t believe in people, then what’s left for us to believe in?
I believe in people and their ability to change for the better if given better circumstances, I just get so miserable sometimes with where they are. It’s a frustration that doesn’t necessarily consume me.
That’s how I see it. Like being deprogrammed to see how evil the US government is like finding out that not only does the mythos exists, but that we are only a hairs away from an elder god waking up and consuming the sun
I feel this. As much as liberals love stories of people escaping from cults, they really don’t like the suggestion that they may be living in one too.
Yeah…
Tell your average lib about dependency theory and Eurocentrism and they’ll think you’ve gone mad, or be like “yes that’s true and it’s good actually”.
I’ve been reading a lot of Frantz Fanon and Samir Amin lately.
What’s dependecy theory?
Basically, that third world countries/global south (called the periphery by Amin) are not underdeveloped, but what the imperial core/Center nations economies are built on though exploitation. The economies of periphery countries are permanently structured by imperialism to serve the needs of the imperial core nations.
An important part here is that counties in the periphery cannot catch up in development with the imperial core countries in the system of global capitalism, because of monopolies held by the imperial core nations, and inherent polarisation between the core and periphery. Monopolies such as nuclear weapons, communication systems, technology, global financial systems and access to natural resources. These monopolies are maintained by organisation such as the IMF and NATO.
Thus the way to develop is to “de link” from imperial core countries and prioritise domestic development. Obviously due to globalisation, delinking 100% from imperial nations is not possible and economic suicide. If I remember correctly, Amin stated that de linking by 70% is the best most periphery countries can hope to achieve as an end goal in the current system. In 2017, he considered China 50% de linked. For interests sake, South Africa was 0% lol.
This is obviously a big oversimplification, I’m missing out on a lot of stuff, also I’m new to it so I could be summarising wrong.
De-linking? Kind of like what Russia is trying to do now?
I mean it’s a forced de-link, unless Putin predicted every sanction in advance and this is some 4d chess move, it’s never going to be as smooth as doing it as an actual pre-planned encomic policy.
But maybe in the long run it will be good, as his successor is forced to be de-linked from the west.
He could never have guessed the day nor the hour, but the Russian government knew this was coming eventually. They were moving manufacturing and agriculture back to domestic production for years before this.
:navalny-shining: :agony-mescaline:
Isn’t he like unironic fash? Probably one of the few people worse than Putin
Ah, it doesn’t sound new, I’ve hearing those concepts all my life.
Another factor that helps keep the periphery underdeveloped: agrooligarchs (or other primary-products-oligarchs) not wanting to cede power to industrial oligarchs. That’s what happened to South America.
Agricultural colonies are easier to handle, less unions and all that hassle that comes with then
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Yes Parenti definitely outlines the core concepts of dependancy theory in certain speeches.
