I moderated a few reddits for a couple of months and promptly left that absolute joke of a system to people vastly more masochistic than I. I cannot fathom doing the equivalent of full time work for free on a site that actively berates any moderator who attempts to stand up for themselves or their tools used to moderate.
That’s quite rich, after the way they treated their mods.
Really a sign of them not giving a shit about anyone.
They care about revenue. They made it clear during protest. “Well our revenue isn’t really impacted so whatever on we go!!”
But it was and they’re showing their true faces.
No good person would put up with being a mod for reddit after this shit show with spez. The only incentive to put up with that is the financial gains of allowing astroturfing as a mod (for example) or having a really weird power trip. Very curious to see how reddit will evolve with that kind of leadership
I’m still technically a mod for a small subreddit. I polled the users, they weren’t interested in moving over to Lemmy.
(Edit because prematurely posted)
I’m still hoping they’ll move over, but tbh it’s a good bunch of posters on a niche subject and the mod team has never had to be too active. The topic had a been literally unmodded for years before the current mod team fell into it, so I’m confident we’re not needed.
We’re literally just a placeholder to keep someone power mad from becoming mod. (Long story long: founding mod abandoned sub, came back after years, was mad the subreddit didn’t agree with his crap opinions, made the sub private, I and a few other posters made a new subreddit.)
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The problem is that there just isn’t an alternative for some communities (yet). For some things there’s ONE space to talk about it and/or a nice little helpful community.
IMO it’s up to each person how they want to move forwards, and staying on in a limited capacity is a fair compromise. Another advantage being the community can later be redirected when users are ready.
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Reddit apparently still hasn’t figured out the maxim “Don’t piss off the free help.” TANSTAFL.
Hello, Thank for sharing! Seems like it already got posted to !reddit@lemmy.world, maybe we can keep the Reddit discussions over there? There isn’t that much technology discussed on Reddit nowadays, it’s mostly a sinking ship by now.
Actually most of the discussion happens in !reddit@lemmy.ml
It appears I’m not allowed to interact on that instance, did lemmy.world defederate from lemmy.ml?
Hm, interesting, I have no idea unfortunately
Probably the issue with the .ml again
And who could have guessed? U r right, I’m absolutely baffled this is a serious issue…
I’d like to mod r/FuckSpez. Where do I sign up?
He made sure to ban that group.
He can’t ban it on Lemmy.
That would be /c/FuckSpez, not /r/FuckSpez.
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He was never good at it. He used to have handlers, when Musk fired all his own Captain Copycat did the same thing. He’s not a smart man… either one.
Covering up being an asshole has gone out of style.
It’s precisely what everyone said would happen. Spez and the Reddit team seem not to realise how important mods and users were to their business! The number of people who will do the thankless task of dealing with the internet’s undercurrent of horrendous behaviour are few.
It’s not recognizing as such, but refusing to admit someone not directly under the magnificent leadership of the CEO can do anything important or have good ideas on how to run things. Toxic Techbro culture.
To techbros, people doing voluntary work for them is something to be exploited, not rewarded. They see the mods as saps as they would never do anything for free.
It’s precisely what everyone said would happen.
I don’t disagree with your general point, but I remember that there were many people (on reddit, but also on lemmy) who said there would be lots of power-hungry redditors just waiting to take over and that the admins would thus have no trouble at all finding replacements.
Finding replacement is one thing. Finding good replacement an entirely different one.
Yup. The real test will be how these communities function in 6 months, since the effect probably won’t show until then.
Let’s see how many are willing to go through all that regurgitating shit and survive a month in their new profession.
I just don’t care about Reddit anymore. Or Twitter, for that matter.
Any luck getting the ask historian mods to switch over to lemmy. That I think would tip the scale permanently
Although I also doubt that it will happen until Lemmy gets some good moderation tools first. In its current state, it wouldn’t quite fit what they need to do with the sub, especially with the heavy moderation that they would need to do.
What tools are needed and missing?
Any type of automatic moderation. It is a godsend for managing a community as you don’t have to worry about content with or breaking those roles as the bot(s) check it for you.
They did make a post about it, Lemmy is no where near large enough for them to be interested. Their mission is to showcase history on a large public platform.
They said they are not happy with how the company has acted, but it would take a much bigger issue to get them to consider moving.
I also don’t think Lemmy is ready for everyone, especially in terms of moderation. The tools are very limited and hard to access. I have to navigate to each post to deal with it, and the only 3 options (right next to one another) are ‘remove post’, ‘ban from community’ and ‘appoint as mod’.
There’s also no modmail or automod tools, which are really important as a community gets large.
It’s fine for now with the communities I’m moderating, but I’d understand if some Reddit communities don’t feel ready
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Wonder what the thing that would be tipping point for them would look like.
Either way - shame. I really enjoyed that sub.
It would take times, the more informative content we have (even the what’s your top 5 thing posts) that common people use search engine to look up for and find, the more we will get exposure, just like how reddit find its audience. Imo, as long as lemmy doesn’t get into front page of search engine, I’m afraid the number of lemmyverse users that migrate from reddit won’t sharply increase unless reddit does more fuckups. This might also mean, there will be inevitably one or a select few big lemmy instances that will get more exposure.
In any case, it’s not necessarily a bad thing; Lemmy (and kbin) needs a lot of improvement to be accessible to most people. Let people that are tech-savvy and those who are passionate in open-source projects improve it first. Otherwise, others will try and find lemmy too complicated to use as it is right now and not interested in using it later down the road.
Just my 0.02
What’s special about those mods?
They moderate rigorously.
Participating in one of their threads is like attending a university course.
Most people don’t have the context to actually participate in the discussions, but the quality is on a completely different level.
The answers on that subreddit are probably the highest quality answers on all of Reddit.
The mods are very strict and keep the quality exceptionally high
Wild. I don’t find extremely moderated subs to be an example of what I want to see here. I felt just as bad going to subs like that as I did going to subs where the mods don’t do anything to control the users. IMO, (and I realize it’s very much MY OWN opinion), is that discussion shouldn’t ever be purged unless it’s illegal or hate speech.
lmfao - may a well just reach out to ol’ Hitler Murdoch over at Fox to help him fill his holes
Holy hell this thread is full of boot slobber. What the fuck is so good to you guys about having a mod over your shoulder ever second making sure you don’t step out of whatever line they decided to draw in their imaginary sand?
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It’s interesting to observe this speeding train wreck from a distance.
Hah! I can’t wait for the next devaluation to drop.
The incompetence of Reddit staff in recent years has especially impressed me.
The incompetence of Reddit staff in recent years has especially impressed me
Tell me about it, I just got a 7 day ban of promoting hate on a samsung sub and my comment had nothing to do with it lol. Some guy decided to randomly abuse and harass me, I reported him and he obviously reported me. I notice he got banned right away but days later so did I for nothing? Lol shows how incompetence and in shambles that the new mods are in.
If you’re using a Samsung at this point it’s safe to say you hate yourself lol
Edit - /s because apparently the joke was lost. I could care less what phone anyone uses. You do you.
Reddit Mods were never good. They were some of the worst people on Reddit. The admins are the only people worse than the mods.
Seriously, 90% of Reddit mods are on a power trip, they permanently ban you and mute you instantly at the slightest transgression or if they just don’t like you. Also, everyone single one of them claims to be one of the good ones, lol.
That’s the case for every sub with a political undertone.
Most subs for your favourite hobby is usually nice. Unless your hobby is US politics, believing walking dogs 5 hours a week is a job, or inventing a patriarchal society to tear down.
