nanoUFO@sh.itjust.worksM to Games@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 5 months agoAfter Initial Success, Helldiver’s 2 Has Lost 90% Of Its Players With No Signs Of Recoverywww.forbes.comexternal-linkmessage-square78fedilinkarrow-up1269
arrow-up1269external-linkAfter Initial Success, Helldiver’s 2 Has Lost 90% Of Its Players With No Signs Of Recoverywww.forbes.comnanoUFO@sh.itjust.worksM to Games@sh.itjust.worksEnglish · 5 months agomessage-square78fedilink
minus-squareAlexisFR@jlai.lulinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·5 months agoYeah but that’s the problem isn’t it? Why are more toxic games like the PvP centric ones some much more successful with sometimes even less content?
minus-squarePasserby6497@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up13·5 months agoBecause PvP is basically infinite free content for people who like the game loop. I’ve had friends who love that sort of thing and they can play forever because they’re putting their skills against real people who aren’t just basic AIs.
minus-squareWolfLink@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·5 months agoYou can also just play PvE like helldivers over and over again. But people seem to like the idea of winning by putting someone else down.
minus-squareAngryMoblinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·5 months agoChess has been played for ages with no dlc. Competition against another person is engaging on its own. And chess is a good deep game on its own. Combine competition with a good game and you get a successful infinite live service game in theory. Only one or the other and you get a flash in the pan.
minus-squareampersandrew@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·5 months agoThey’re not. This same curve happens with PvP games. The ones that don’t follow this trend are the exception, not the rule.
Yeah but that’s the problem isn’t it? Why are more toxic games like the PvP centric ones some much more successful with sometimes even less content?
Because PvP is basically infinite free content for people who like the game loop. I’ve had friends who love that sort of thing and they can play forever because they’re putting their skills against real people who aren’t just basic AIs.
You can also just play PvE like helldivers over and over again. But people seem to like the idea of winning by putting someone else down.
Chess has been played for ages with no dlc. Competition against another person is engaging on its own. And chess is a good deep game on its own.
Combine competition with a good game and you get a successful infinite live service game in theory.
Only one or the other and you get a flash in the pan.
They’re not. This same curve happens with PvP games. The ones that don’t follow this trend are the exception, not the rule.