• OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      This isn’t really anything new since whenever executive orders became a thing. With executive orders, a president can start a war or force the entire population to stay home or wear masks in public. I think it’s way too much power and needs to be scaled back big time. But here we are anyway.

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        It’s funny you say how insurrection is fine when one side does it meanwhile January 6th was a literal coup attempt that has been downplayed by every politician involved.

        All those present are given slaps on the wrist while the masterminds behind it remain in power with no repercussions whatsoever to the point the main leader of the coup was just given fucking immunity to commit domestic terrorism and act like a fuckin king.

        So yeah it would be perfectly fine if Biden called for the assassination of not only Trump but every current sitting scotus member and whatever congressman he deems fit for execution.

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          January 6 is not even close to the same league as assassination of political rivals and overthrowing the Supreme Court, and if you think it is then you are either insane or are willfully blinded by partisanship.

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              I’m not sure exactly what they were trying to do on Jan 6, but the fact nobody had guns, there was no clear plan, and it didn’t even come close to working, makes it significantly less of a problem than straight up murder of the opposition and the entire government. Actually not sure why I’m even having this conversation. You have to be either insane or trolling me.

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                the fact nobody had guns

                They did have guns.

                https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/apr/05/robert-f-kennedy-jr/rfk-jr-falsely-said-that-jan-6-protestors-carried/

                there was no clear plan

                Donald Trump called the election a fraud months before his loss, told his supporters to show up and force Pence to declare him president despite losing the election. His supporters showed up, erected a noose, demanded Pence be hanged, and came very close to killing him by Pence’s own testimony.

                it didn’t even come close to working

                Contrary to your beliefs that the thousands of right wing extremists that stormed the capitol were completely unarmed, plenty were heavily armed and came very close to being face to face with Democratic members of Congress. Things could have gone very differently that day if the insurrectionists had managed to go as far as they were willing to. We’re lucky that our representatives were able to get to safety before the mob arrived.

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                  Well I looked into it, and there were 4 confirmed people who brought guns. I’m certain there were others who were never discovered, but clearly violence was not a serious part of the plan to overthrow the government. I’m certain that some of the more extreme members were capable of violence and even murdering certain politicians, but that has always been true. It has also always been wrong and we should never act like it’s ok no matter who is attempting it.

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                    clearly violence was not a serious part of the plan to overthrow the government.

                    This is the single most delusional string of words I’ve ever read.

                    You go from claiming that there was no coherent plan, to saying that the plan is “clear” enough that we can rule out violence as a part of it.

                    4 people fucking died in a coordinated attempt to storm the capitol where an armed mob assaulted and killed police officers, smashed through windows, pissed and shit in hallways and offices, and demanded that politicians be killed.

                    And you’re saying that violence “clearly” wasn’t part of the plan?

                    Is this some kind of bit where you pretend to be as stupid as possible, because I don’t get it.