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    Myopia develops in children. If you have any, you’ll know they don’t generally look out of car windows.

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      Oh, I’ve got myopia, like -5 vision, and yes I was born with it. That’s why I ain’t buying that whole ‘we don’t go outside as much’ theory for even a second.

      Edit: Thank goodness for glasses/contact lenses.

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        I’ve spent most of my life in front of a screen and have perfect vision, a couple of people don’t make a statistic

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          I grew up on a 40 acre horse ranch and had to walk about a quarter mile to even catch the school bus, yet couldn’t see a pile of horse shit until I accidentally stepped in it.

          So still, I ain’t buying that whole ‘spending more time indoors causes myopia’ thing, I was literally born with it.

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              LMAO, you ever tried walking a quarter mile when your vision is so bad you can’t even see your own fucking dick clearly?

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                  Yes, you’re right. I can’t see my own fingerprints (without my glasses), past about 1 foot (~30.5 centimeters) in front of my face.

                  I didn’t even get glasses until I was 8 years old, which basically meant I was running around legally blind until the age of 8, when they finally stopped punishing me for not being able to see shit and actually took me to an optometrist.

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                I just can’t see my own dick clearly because it’s incredibly, incredibly small. I’d DM you a pic but my electron microscope is in the shop rn.

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                  There’s a difference between seeing your dick versus seeing your pubic hairs clearly. Whether you take my word on it or not, my member is of a decent size, I just can’t see the hairs without my glasses or contact lenses.

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            There are infants born with heart issues, does that mean that you should eat 10 hamburgers a day anyway?

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              Did everyone miss my point? I didn’t grow up stuck inside so often, I spent a LOT of time outdoors. Hell, the first book I ever read was a survival manual.

              I even learned to drive a stick shift at age 7, before I even got glasses. So I still stand by the opinion that indoor vs outdoor environment makes fuckall nothing to do with nearsightedness.

              You’re either born with it or you aren’t. It’s all about the shape of the eye.

              I spent more time outdoors than indoors.

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                I mean, I don’t know how much simpler I can make it. You can be born without a hand or lose it in an accident, same as you, you can be born with bad eyesight or develop it because of external factors, doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t mitigate the external factors.

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                  Again, did you miss my point? Apparently so, I grew up outdoors. I learned to drive a stick shift and learned how to shoot a gun before I even had glasses.

                  That doesn’t mean it was appropriate the ways they taught me, but still I was an outdoors kid, I wasn’t stuck in a fucking room…

                  But I was still literally born nearsighted.

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                    I feel like I’m talking to a chatbot with very limited instructions. I guess this is pointless. Goodbye.

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        So because you were born with myopia, you don’t believe that some people develop it later in life? What are you talking about?

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          Do you even know what causes myopia at birth? The eyes aren’t properly spherical, they’re elongated. This doesn’t tend to change all that much over one’s lifetime either.

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            You aren’t born with adult sized eyes. Your eyes grow as you grow, and their growth appears to be regulated by how they’re used. It’s covered in the article, maybe read it?

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              No shit Watson. It’s still all about the shape and proportions of the eye, not the size. Anyone with myopia can literally push their eyes in gently via the eyelids and see a bit better.

              Your eyes don’t get longer from being indoors, you’re either born with longer than normal eyes or you aren’t. Some are even born with shorter eyes, called hyperopia (also better known as farsightedness).

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                  And yes, I also have 42 years of actual real life experience with myopia. What the fuck a scientist gonna tell you if they haven’t literally lived and experienced bad nearsighted eyes?

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                    Would you like some more actual life experience? I became more nearsighted over time as my eyes developed. Rather than concluding that it’s impossible for you to have it at birth (which is what I could reasonably conclude using a sample of me alone), I recognize that there are multiple possible ways for someone to become nearsighted. And scientists are finding that people who spend more time looking at screens are more likely to develop myopia after birth

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                  Yes, I do take that stance, and I always will. Those dumb fucks declared me deaf for the first 8 years of my life.

                  I heard them just fine, I just couldn’t see their lips moving.