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Ok she seems awesome, and I’ve heard the PSL endorsed by at least a few Marxists I trust, but what do yall think about them and their platform? Any weird gotchas in there or history of grossness from her or the organization?
I believe some northeast chapters have had SA cover up accusations levied against them, but I had my own not great experience with my local branch in the Midwest. Nowhere near anything like that, just more of a “this branch needs to figure out what they’re doing, and they’re actively leading me on and wasting my time” sorta thing.
That said, I’ve voted for them in the past, and if they’re on the ballot, they’ll get my vote. I just dont work with them locally anymore.
I only know of one case in the philly branch, and like from what I heard, it was an understandably messy situation, but that seems more like a problem in any type of organization, not specific to the PSL. It seems to me like people conflate the branch/national not airing dirty laundry in public with them doing some kind of nefarious cover up.
PSL are not trots.
PSL supports Cuba, Vietnam, China and the historical USSR.
PSL did branch from a trot organization, which might be why you think this. This is because most surviving leftist organizations in America post WW2 redscare were trot organizations.
If a member of PSL was pro-NATO they are contradicting a fundamental, non-negotiable part of the party line and should be spoken to by local leadership
That’s historically accurate but doesn’t in any way describe the politics or operation of the party today. We are straight up MLs who have very intentionally shed that trot shit a long time ago.
puts an end to Brianna Wu
I just found Claudia de la Cruz’s presidential campaign site, for those interested:
https://votesocialist2024.com/
Ok she seems awesome, and I’ve heard the PSL endorsed by at least a few Marxists I trust, but what do yall think about them and their platform? Any weird gotchas in there or history of grossness from her or the organization?
COVID. They put up a campaign video on it and they had to take it down. It heavily downplayed the usefulness of masking
So just got some greyzone brainworms
Sorta, no where near as reactionary. I think on Karina’s and Claudia’s part it seems more cowardly than genuinely anti mask.
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I believe some northeast chapters have had SA cover up accusations levied against them, but I had my own not great experience with my local branch in the Midwest. Nowhere near anything like that, just more of a “this branch needs to figure out what they’re doing, and they’re actively leading me on and wasting my time” sorta thing.
That said, I’ve voted for them in the past, and if they’re on the ballot, they’ll get my vote. I just dont work with them locally anymore.
I only know of one case in the philly branch, and like from what I heard, it was an understandably messy situation, but that seems more like a problem in any type of organization, not specific to the PSL. It seems to me like people conflate the branch/national not airing dirty laundry in public with them doing some kind of nefarious cover up.
I don’t know the details, but you do make a good point.
They’re trots so don’t ask em about AES butif they’re on your ballot it’s a virtual guarantee they’re your best option.PSL are not trots. PSL supports Cuba, Vietnam, China and the historical USSR.
PSL did branch from a trot organization, which might be why you think this. This is because most surviving leftist organizations in America post WW2 redscare were trot organizations.
Links to some random PSL publication articles to prove my point. https://www.liberationschool.org/category/china-2/
https://www.liberationnews.org/tag/cuba/
https://www.liberationnews.org/how-vietnam-defeated-u-s-imperialism/
https://www.liberationschool.org/theory-and-revolution-addressing-the-break-of-ideological-continuity/
Ah thanks for that. I knew they descended from a trot org and a member I know had a pretty disgusting pro-NATO stance on something so I just assumed.
If a member of PSL was pro-NATO they are contradicting a fundamental, non-negotiable part of the party line and should be spoken to by local leadership
ah now I remember! they were both-sidesing balkanization, placing an emphasis on the bosnian genocide
PSL are Marcyites, who are Trots that accidentally stumbled into being MLs.
That’s historically accurate but doesn’t in any way describe the politics or operation of the party today. We are straight up MLs who have very intentionally shed that trot shit a long time ago.
PSL published a book last year about why China is good and sent a delegation to meet with Diaz-Canal in Cuba last month
MY PRESIDENT
Her COVID stance sucks and is borderline anti mask
Still the only candidate worth supporting.
Unfortunately