On the grand scheme of things, I suspect we actually don’t have that much power in stopping the industrial machine.
Even if every person on here, on Reddit, and every left-leaning social media revolted against the powers that be right now, we wouldn’t resolve anything. Not really. They’d send the military out, shoot us down (possibly quite literally), then go back to business as usual.
Unless there becomes a business incentive to change our ways, then capitalism will not follow, and instead it’ll do everything it can to resist that change.
By the time there is enough economic inventive, it’ll be far too late to be worth fixing.
I mean, this isn’t just a social media thing. It was part of the reason there was a writer’s strike in Hollywood and they did manage to accomplish something. I don’t see why protests/strikes/politics would be useless here.
You’re right, but I was making a point, as social media is most often where you hear people calling for revolution.
I’ll agree that strikes can work, especially employment strikes - but that’s usually because there’s a specific, private entity to target, an employer to back into the metaphorical corner.
As far as protesting/striking against the system, you need only look at the strikes and protests relating Palestine to know what kind of force such a revolutionary strike would be met with.
A lot of people on Lemmy are expecting the glorious revolution to happen any time now and then we will live in whatever utopia they believe makes a utopia. Even if something like that happens, and I’m less certain by the day that it ever will, the result isn’t necessarily any better than what came before. And often worse.
It’ll almost certainly be worse. When revolutions happen, the people who seize power are the ones who were most prepared, organized and willing to exercise violence. Does that at all sound like leftists in the West?
The only way to enact utopia is by making it so popular an idea that the propaganda machine gets drowned out. This is going to be a very long and slow process that may never end. But we can always aim for “not worse” and if we can do that, we can also aim for “a little better”. Anything faster than those baby steps feels really far from possible, but those baby steps are always worth taking.
Even if every person on here, on Reddit, and every left-leaning social media revolted against the powers that be right now, we wouldn’t resolve anything. Not really. They’d send the military out, shoot us down (possibly quite literally), then go back to business as usual.
What are your thoughts on 2A and private gun ownership?
the us military will always have more firepower than your group of armed civilians. maybe good for defending against other armed civilians, but don’t act like you could take on the military.
See, the thing is, dead people don’t buy as many things as live ones, so extreme capitalism doesn’t want to kill you directly either. Slow poison is fine if profitable enough, but fast intentional bullet to their main customer base - not as much.
On the grand scheme of things, I suspect we actually don’t have that much power in stopping the industrial machine.
Even if every person on here, on Reddit, and every left-leaning social media revolted against the powers that be right now, we wouldn’t resolve anything. Not really. They’d send the military out, shoot us down (possibly quite literally), then go back to business as usual.
Unless there becomes a business incentive to change our ways, then capitalism will not follow, and instead it’ll do everything it can to resist that change. By the time there is enough economic inventive, it’ll be far too late to be worth fixing.
I mean, this isn’t just a social media thing. It was part of the reason there was a writer’s strike in Hollywood and they did manage to accomplish something. I don’t see why protests/strikes/politics would be useless here.
You’re right, but I was making a point, as social media is most often where you hear people calling for revolution.
I’ll agree that strikes can work, especially employment strikes - but that’s usually because there’s a specific, private entity to target, an employer to back into the metaphorical corner.
As far as protesting/striking against the system, you need only look at the strikes and protests relating Palestine to know what kind of force such a revolutionary strike would be met with.
A lot of people on Lemmy are expecting the glorious revolution to happen any time now and then we will live in whatever utopia they believe makes a utopia. Even if something like that happens, and I’m less certain by the day that it ever will, the result isn’t necessarily any better than what came before. And often worse.
It’ll almost certainly be worse. When revolutions happen, the people who seize power are the ones who were most prepared, organized and willing to exercise violence. Does that at all sound like leftists in the West?
The only way to enact utopia is by making it so popular an idea that the propaganda machine gets drowned out. This is going to be a very long and slow process that may never end. But we can always aim for “not worse” and if we can do that, we can also aim for “a little better”. Anything faster than those baby steps feels really far from possible, but those baby steps are always worth taking.
Wake me up when people found a solarpunk city-state with nuclear capability so that they don’t just get rolled over by the nearest superpower.
Well, certanly not with that attitude
What are your thoughts on 2A and private gun ownership?
the us military will always have more firepower than your group of armed civilians. maybe good for defending against other armed civilians, but don’t act like you could take on the military.
That doesn’t really factor into anything.
If the military backs the system, they’d win that fight as they’ll always be better armed.
That’s why the founding fathers never wanted a standing military, because it took power away from the people - now more than ever.
See, the thing is, dead people don’t buy as many things as live ones, so extreme capitalism doesn’t want to kill you directly either. Slow poison is fine if profitable enough, but fast intentional bullet to their main customer base - not as much.