• catloaf@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    Hasn’t rent control been shown to be ineffective at making everyone play nice? I feel like it’s much more effective to put your finger on the supply/demand balance by subsidizing the supply side.

    And not by just giving handouts to corporate landlords, either.

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      Hasn’t rent control been shown to be ineffective at making everyone play nice?

      It’s proven effective at causing landlords to scream and cry and publish 10,000 word Op-Eds about how they’re going to do a capital strike if the rules aren’t changed.

      But, when paired with new investment in public housing, its incredibly effective at keeping rental costs stable long term.

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        Just like with unions, you know it’s good for the common people, because the business and property owners speak out against it so strongly. If it’s pointless, they could just let it happen. But instead, they rally against it. So you know they’re lying when they say it won’t matter.

        It will matter.

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      Yeah. It has but stuff like this plays well in the echo chamber. Like most attempts at price controls it has a lot of unintended consequences such as fewer apartments built and rented out, landlords charging obscene amounts to a new renter knowing they cannot raise the prices as needed later on, landlords raising prices whether they need to or not because they can’t hike them quickly when needed, worse maintenance.

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        Okay then let’s just drop an anchor into the market. Have the federal government commit to buying and managing 50,000 units in every major city. They’re available on the open market at cost plus 100 dollars a month. The 100 dollars goes into a fund and the city with the highest rents gets more federally owned apartments.

        We just keep dropping anchors until developers provide reasonable housing at reasonable prices or housing is no longer a private market.

        Government has a really big damn stick. If people’s needs don’t start getting met then those developers are going to feel it, right in their profits.

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        5 months ago

        No one is proposing rent control in a vaccum. Arguing against that idea is disingenuous and is how you end up with the status quo of “rent control is actually bad for renters” that gets parroted in economics circles. State intervention is necessary for markets to exist in the first place and they have overwhelming power in shaping them.

        Building large scale affordable public housing, incentive structures that promote the building of affordable high density private housing, banning corporate ownership of single family homes and short term rentals like AirBnB, limiting corporate ownership within apartment complexes, reworking zoning laws to better suit current needs, more robust mechanisms for tenant disputes and transparency for historical rental prices to prevent abuse.

        All of that is possible if the political will was there.

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      I think the problem is that once the government subsidizes anything it becomes all hands on deck peak business interest to exploit and steal said subsidies.

      Some sort of enforced regulation might work, but the government doesn’t really like to do that.

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      That last sentence is all that ever happens in supply side economics. It’s the entire handbook.

      They’ve had enough carrot. It’s time for the stick.

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      5 months ago

      Not giving handouts to corporate lawyers? Impossible. Next you’ll tell me that we should ease zoning restrictions and ignore NIMBYs that are afraid of black people moving in?