• BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world
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      This is the equivalent of “you don’t want to be like that Janitor over there” energy. Needlessly mean to a specific class or profession because they don’t see it as valued.

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        Nobody respected the janitorial staff at my high school until they went on strike. Shit went downhill FAST.

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          Maybe that should be a thing. Once every 2-4 years the janitors go on strike so kids develop an appreciation for blue collar work. It would be random within that timeframe though so it couldn’t really be prepared for.

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        Yeah, teach sounds like a dick. A HS physics teacher doesn’t even make that much more than a GM at McDicks and probably less than a McD District Manager. Sounds like the teacher should’ve made better career choices, maybe they’d be a physicist instead of just teaching. You know what they say: Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach.

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        We don’t think janitors are bad. We think it sucks to be a janitor because cleaning isn’t fun.

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          And being paid very little + we all know they get treated like trash because we think lowly of their profession.

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              Don’t turn this on me, you weirdo. This is what 99% of people do.

              I know this because i’ve been in their shoes, people are fucking trash.

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                You hang out with the wrong people. Don’t give me statistics you literally just made up. Maybe you’re trash and people treated you like you rather than like a janitor.

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      “Rappers are lying when they say that teachers told them they wouldn’t amount to anything. They just told you to read aloud, and you got mad.”

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        Haven’t we all had at least one exceptionally shitty teacher though?

        I’ve been in the room when Mr fucking Stephens told a kid that he’d never be an artist and to pay attention. Is little Jake an artist today? No, he’s a welder, he has 4 kids, and he still loves to draw. Granted Jake never thought art was an option but I’m not sure 7th grade biology is coming up in his daily life either.

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          I’ve had horrible teachers, but mostly because they were abusive, and terrible at teaching. Even those horrible teachers never told me I wouldn’t amount to anything without appending the statement with “if you don’t apply yourself”.

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            Things would probably be different if teachers made more money or if the requirements were higher. For most people who become teachers, it definitely was not their intended career progression. Just something they landed on.

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          Yeah some teachers are legitimately awful. I had one in fourth grade that was extremely disrespectful to her students, screaming at them and publicly humiliating ones that did poorly on tests or had trouble reading to the class. Acted the polar opposite when other faculty were in the room doing observation reviews.

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          I had this teacher who was openly cruel to me in front of my classmates. She didn’t even try to hide her disdain. Many years later my father told me she had a talk with him and told him: “I’d love to fail him but I can’t because he keeps scoring 10 in every exam.” So that was the reason, I never did my homework, I was always distracting my classmates but I always passed exams with a 10.

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          I had a real cunt of a math teacher in 6th grade, he taught his subject matter well but was just a bastard of a human being; I no longer have several mementos of my life (was an air force brat) because he confiscated them, and would be pedantic about how you asked to get things back (may i vs can i BS); eventually he would just dispose of things.

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        It also subtly hints that the teacher was a big part of their becoming a rapper, because reading aloud means articulating in a strong voice under pressure.

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    Some of y’all didn’t grow up in the southeastern US and it shows.

    Not all of the teachers in my school were unreasonable narcissistic sadists, but about half of them were.

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      Generally speaking those who haven’t encountered evil think reports of evil are exaggeration and myth.

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        Conversely, those who have encountered evil have a tendency to overestimate how much evil there actually is.

        See also: PTSD, trust issues, control freaks. Possibly martyr syndrome/victim complex.

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          Yes. As Bruce Lee says, don’t be tense; be ready.

          The optimal is to recognize that all situations warrant readiness for evil, which doesn’t have to mean actually seeing evil everywhere one goes.

          I carry a knife at all times, because I was jumped by a drunk guy while homeless. He threw me down and kicked my head repeatedly until others pulled him off me. He did it because I asked him if he could spare a dollar.

          But the other night, I was sitting at a traffic light. Three people walked by, two men and a woman. They were all giving me hostile stares.

          I rolled down my window and said “Do you guys have a problem with me?” and they just said “No you’re just so cute”. The guys were gay I guess.

          Realized I broke the rule of being ready, but not tense.

          I appreciate your reminder, too.

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      Wow, have you even tried being born to a socioeconomic status that put you in a better school zone??

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      Idk if that’s the right qualifier. It should be “rural”. Because when people aren’t stupid, and they live in the city, they’re gonna get shuffled into classes pretty early with all the other not stupid people. But in small towns, small classes, you’re gonna see everyone. I’ve witnessed teachers saying this to kids over and over, and it’s because we didn’t have a choice. There was no fancy classroom either of us were escaping to.

      Is a tired trope tho

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          Yes, I’d much rather have my tax dollars going toward that than another air superiority fighter that: A. Doesn’t work and B. Wouldn’t be used because most of our military engagements are against groups without air forces.

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            Shockingly the military isn’t the reason we cant have the other things we want, it’s because we don’t make everyone pay their fair share.

            Also while it’s unpopular the f22 project did push the envelope for technology and that money wasn’t just burned, the f22 is still quite the technological achievement and even failures result in significant research and development

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                Well it’s sensor fusion technology has been the blue print for every machine intended to “make its own decision” in terms of where it goes, and what functions it uses. The sensor tech created have lead to a bunch of significant increases in a number of tracking technologies, everything from optically informed triggers and movement, improvements in camera, and display tech, and a large array of sensors using a lot of other means of sensing things, such as EM fields/projection. The air frame has informed the development of more efficient commercial aircraft. Developments in HUD/AR displays have a lot to thank from the tech developed for the F-22’s pilot information systems. All sorts of different user interface tech was influenced by things developed for it.

                A whole lot of what many industries have been doing draws from stuff developed for the system. So-much-so that congress made an amendment that specifically blocked the sale of the F-22 and its associated sub-systems.

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          Prioritize reading of fiction. We put too much emphasis on reading for education, but reading can be a great escape too.

          People need escape mechanisms. Reading fiction is an escape and it makes people more literate and more articulate.

          Educating the low level stuff is just as important as the high level stuff. And by low level stuff, I mean the ability to form coherent sentences, and arrange those into paragraphs.

          Just running tons and tons of text through the brain helps with this. My Spanish verb conjugation, for example, got much better when I started reading Spanish literature. Because a good story eventually covers all the bases of all the tenses for conjugation, many many times. It’s so much more effective than a textbook on conjugation.

          We learn by examples. Especially language. The best way to learn language is unconsciously, as a side effect of trying to communicate. A good story grips the reader’s conscious mind on the plot, allowing the absorption of the linguistic rules to be absorbed unconsciously.

          We don’t have enough respect for fiction. We think people need to read about physics or history to get smarter. No. They can read about an adventure, and get smarter. Just like a person can play soccer and get more skilled. Drills are fine, but just playing the game makes you better too, and it’s so much more engaging than doing drills.

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        Removing profiteering would be a good first step. We got here by neolibs deciding that everything was fair game to make money on. So, millennial, zoomer, and future generations’ educations were sold off. For decades, literacy education has been using systems developed to allow people with learning disabilities to be functional in modern society, not to foster reading comprehension.

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        I think for a lot of people, reading of kind of a luxury they don’t have time for. Kind of hard to hone your literacy skills when you’re living hand to mouth.

        Then again, I’m a self taught engineer from a poor immigrant family. So who the hell knows.

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      Do you know what the proportion of native English speakers vs non-native speakers is in the US?

      It doesn’t diminish your point, but probably that non-native speakers skew the stats a bit if they are included in the stat.

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        Kinda. If we’re talking about who can participate in the workforce or online conversations, being literate in the dominant language equals “being literate”.

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          Makes sense. I was asking because the links were talking about the English language. But considering that this is the working language, it doesn’t really matter in the end if the person is a native speaker or not. If they can’t hold a basic conversation or read simple instructions, it makes their life harder no matter what.

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    Nah, the teachers where I am absolutely will say, quite literally “You won’t ever amount to anything, why are you even here? Shouldn’t you be dealing drugs on some corner somewhere?”

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    I had a teacher when I was 9 who hated boys. She was cruel and threatened to fail me for the year. Every other teacher that year, I had no issues and was doing great. This one had a vendetta and seemed to want to ensure that none of the few boys in her class would pass. My mom was luckily a strong advocate for us though and almost got that bitch fired.