• Jeena
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    6412 hours ago

    I really don’t get why so many people think the migration is their biggest problem instead of economy and especially demography in Germany. The industry is stuck in the 20th century, that’s the main problem which needs to be addressed, not if there are some migrants here and there.

    • @barsoap@lemm.ee
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      155 minutes ago

      Because none of the big party wants to acknowledge that, random example, abolishing the wealth tax was a bad idea. Not even the bloody SPD: They’re not addressing social issues, aren’t addressing people’s fears for the future, aren’t addressing the lack of perspectives, which leaves room for demagogues. Because doing that would mean that they need to make actual changes to the system, and why would the SPD implement SocDem policies there’s a reason they’re known as the traitor party.

      It’s, in short, a lack of balls in the SPD’s political base to get rid of the Seeheimer circle. Get rid of that New Labour nonsense. Maybe, you know, when Berlin (as in the city state) votes to expropriate large landlords you take that as a sign that you fucked up and change course, instead of trying your best to not have to implement the expropriation. “But won’t someone think about market confidence!” MFers did it help market confidence when the east went full-on AfD. Get a grip.

    • @papertowels
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      229 hours ago

      It’s always easier to blame others then think about how to improve yourselves.

        • @ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works
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          1010 hours ago

          Yup, that’s one flavour of propaganda. Others include racism and xenophobia, all different kinds of fear mongering from stealing jobs to raping “your” women, flat out lies like people eating pets, nationalism, exceptionalism (sadly not only an American problem), and so on. It is everywhere in pretty much all the media we consume consciously and un/subconsciously, even the most left leaning people can’t completely avoid it, we just work harder at being aware of it and (in general, should) do our best to combat it in our own minds and the minds of others.

    • @cmder@lemmy.world
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      2211 hours ago

      Migration is not a problem itself. It is uncontrolled migration that is. It is normal when you have a lot of people coming in your country that don’t get papers so they can’t find normal job, appartment etc that they will turn to criminality to survive. IMO I think it is inhuman to let people in these situations. I am far more for more border control and easily giving papers to people who want to come to the country than letting borders open and ignoring them and letting them rot in the street.

      • Flying SquidM
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        1510 hours ago

        That sounds like an argument for a robust social safety net, not an argument against immigration.

      • @Mighty@lemmy.world
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        1410 hours ago

        you either willfully or unknowingly spout far-right conspiracy theory between the lines.

        migration is not only normal, but essential to the survival of the planet and each country/region. it’s a net positive. we’ve gone so far out of our way to make it a “we” vs “them”, when there’s no “we” at all. there’s just rich people protecting their interests, trying (and suceeding) to divide the masses

        • @Azzu@lemm.ee
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          Most “far right” people are exactly the kind that made the comment you reply to. I have a “friend” that became exactly like this.

      • manucode
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        610 hours ago

        That’s why support for anti immigration parties is so concentrated in regions with few immigrants

    • @DandomRude@lemmy.world
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      Exactly. What’s more, demographic change alone has led to an urgent need for workers from abroad in Germany. This applies to low-skilled as well as highly skilled workers - for example in crafts, catering, healthcare, nursing, IT or engineering, just to name a few sectors. What the right-wing parties and their supporters are propagating is not only inhumane and amoral, it is also economically disastrous. It is these unscrupulous opportunists who are ruining the country with their racist hate; not the migrants - quite the opposite.

  • @just_an_average_joe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1610 hours ago

    If you think thats bad, its gonna get worse. One of the biggest biggest demographics that voted for them were young people now imagine how it will be when these young people grow up

    • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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      188 hours ago

      Europe is going to be a shitshow in the coming decades no matter what direction voters are trending. We’re all talking about this as if it’s primarily a political issue and it just isn’t. Climate change is already fucking our shit up and that’s going to get exponentially worse. Desperate people don’t care about imaginary lines on a map.

      We can’t even deal with a comparatively small amount of migrants without backsliding into the same kind of fascism that our grandparents had to invent nuclear bombs to subdue 80 years ago. There’s no way we’re going to deal with what’s coming in a rational way.

      • @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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        Hey, the nuclear bombs were to stunt on fools, fascism got beat just fine by the united industrial strength of social democracy(ish), communism(ish), and the British Empire. And all three of those things are doing just fine in 2024, right?

  • @Mighty@lemmy.world
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    1110 hours ago

    oh welcome culture? you mean the one where we ostracize and other families that don’t look white european enough? where we put them in camps at the border, where we let them drown in the mediterranean, where we rig the system so hard against anyone lower class so that they will never rise to anything and their kids won’t as well? where we criminalize them and then just send them to some war region somewhere? yeah…must have been the “new” far right that has soured this great welcome culture. STFU

    • @shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
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      I think people misunderstand your comment because that’s exactly what the EU is doing to refugees and I agree that it’s horrible.