• GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    I once had someone get in my face and say, “Are you man enough to fight me?” I responded with “I’m man enough to find non-violent solutions to my problems.” Why should someone be proud of the problem-resolution method of choice for 3-year-olds?

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      2 months ago

      there aren’t always non-violent solutions. i accept that reality. it’s nothing to be proud of, but i would be ashamed if i couldn’t deal with that truth.

      • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        You’re correct, there aren’t always non-violent solutions, but those are often due to people who insist on engaging in violence, whether it be invading another country or taking offense at someone pulling into their driveway.

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          2 months ago

          Yes. It only takes one party to initiate violence involving two parties.

          This is why it is necessary to be prepared for violence even if one never initiates violence.

          • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca
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            2 months ago

            I’m not sure what your point is. It is completely orthogonal to mine. In the same vein, no, you aren’t responsible for other people’s choices, and yes, rabid dogs (or people who act like them) are unlikely to listen to reason. Neither of those are good reasons to start fights, and that statement neither says that all fights are avoidable or that one mustn’t defend oneself.

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      2 months ago

      Violence is for situations when one’s choice of other resolution methods is gone. Such situations do exist.

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        2 months ago

        Yes, and the vast majority of scenarios where that is the case is where one party made completely unreasonable demands or turned to violence as the first option.