As a medical user, I really hope she will stick to this if elected. Trump is doing more “leave it up to the states” bullshit except specifically for Florida and no other state.

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    It would’ve been cool if she said this when she was actively putting people in cages for weed.

    It would’ve been cool if she said this for the past 4 years while she was VP.

    Now she’s saying it for an election. I’m sure she’s legit this time. lol.

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      How dare someone change their mind! We should definitely teach her a lesson she won’t forget and be amongst the 3000 people who who vote for Cornel West in November!

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        How can you make the claim that she changed her mind? Believe actions not words regardless of who it’s coming from.

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          Actions she can’t take until after January 20th? How do you expect people to do that? Or are you really trying to claim that since she hasn’t issued a public apology, she’s definitely lying and hasn’t changed her mind?

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            I didn’t say I expected her to legalize it right now nor am i looking for an apology. You’re mocking the other poster and claiming “she’s changed her mind” without any evidence apart from a basic statement from her that could prove to be completely false for all we know (which was the whole point of their comment).

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              I’m not mocking anything. The person I responded to said:

              If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.

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                That’s what a different user said not the top-level commentor, which is who you were replying to when I replied to you here (though I made a separate reply to you in a different chain so I understand the confusion).

                It would’ve been cool if she said this when she was actively putting people in cages for weed.

                It would’ve been cool if she said this for the past 4 years while she was VP.

                Now she’s saying it for an election. I’m sure she’s legit this time. lol.

                How dare someone change their mind! We should definitely teach her a lesson she won’t forget and be amongst the 3000 people who who vote for Cornel West in November!

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                  You’re right. There is confusion. Because you quoted me saying something else in a different conversation thread and claimed that was when I was mocking the person. So you need to make up your mind.

                  Regardless, sarcasm is not the same as mocking someone. It’s a criticism of what they said.

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        If a politician actually changes their mind that’s fine. If they change their mind to become pro-cannabis legalization, that’s great.

        But they shouldnt try to gaslight the populace into believing that this was their stance all along.

        If this was Kamala’s position all along, then her actions as District Attorney are very hypocritical.

        If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.

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          Or you could not let the perfect be the enemy of the good and celebrate a candidate advocating for legalization.

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            This is such a ridiculous expression and I wish people would quit using it to shut down valid criticism and justify inaction from our leaders.

            You see a homeless guy starving on the sidewalk and give him a penny to go buy food. It’s obviously not enough to buy anything and he objects, but you tell him “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. You should be thankful for what I’ve given you.”

            Rapist Brock Turner rapes a girl behind a dumpster at school. He’s given probation for the crime. “Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. Be thankful that he’s being punished for his crime.”

            Trump passes his tax bill in 2018 giving permanent cuts to wealthy individuals while middle and lower classes get a temporary cut along with the removal of some credits and caps on SALT deductions. This widens the income inequality in our country but since we got a couple of years of lower tax bills, “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good…”

            Just stop it.

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              I’m sorry, but if you can’t accept legalization of cannabis without a public apology, I would say “letting the perfect be the enemy of the good” is exactly the right phrase to use.

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                You’re right, no one really cares about a public apology. Just like this entire story, it’s only words.

                What really matters is advocacy for those nonviolent drug “offenders”. They deserve release from jail, an end to probation, an expungement of criminal records, and reparations for the losses they suffered.

                Kamala issuing a pro-legalization press release is the path of least resistance for her. If she actually stood on principle she would advocate to expunge the criminal records of all nonviolent drug offenders that her DA office prosecuted. But even that is just the words of a politician- what really matters is policy change.

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                  You literally said:

                  If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.

                  Do you care about a public apology or not?

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                    Policy is what matters. A public apology is just optics, and I only care about optics insofar as it affects policy.

                    I was offering up a public apology as one way to help resolve her current hypocrisy on this issue. Harris’ current position seems to be something like “allow current and future cannabis consumption, but continue to brutally punish those who consumed cannabis in the past” and I find this deeply schizophrenic.

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                There’s no indication that legalization is happening. What we’ve gotten is a simple statement that may or may not be true.

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                    Yes, this is quite obvious.

                    I’m sorry, but if you can’t accept legalization of cannabis without a public apology, I would say “letting the perfect be the enemy of the good” is exactly the right phrase to use.

                    Here you, in an incredibly condescending tone, are stating that legalization is a forgone conclusion based on nothing more than a campaign promise. People are pointing out examples where her actions contradict said campaign promise, which is why they have a hard time believing it. Candidates make false campaign promises all the time, so I can’t see why you’re attacking people for not falling for it the 100th time. Talk is cheap.