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    Trump will continue to play grab ass with the fuck-around gang until he finds the exact line in the sand that guarantees he gets held in pre-trial detention. If he gets thrown in the slammer while awaiting trial he will claim he is a political prisoner, and if they don’t stick him there he will do everything in his power to commit soft-treason through his cult. Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.

    Until he is made to suffer serious consequences for his violent petulence and penchant for authoritarianism things will never move forward in any meaningful way. He is a distraction that, when all is said and done, will have stagnated the progress of this country for a decade at minimum.

    Edit: Accidentally a word

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      Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.

      It’s like the whole US is scared of a scar so they keep delaying the op to get the tumor out.

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        I think the greater fear is that anything done against him becomes fuel for the Republicans/conservatives to elect an even worse human being.

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          While I generally agree with you assessment, I think it is important to note that not punishing Trump would embolden or exacerbate his brand of bully pulpit tactics even more. This fear of retribution just means we need to be ever vigilant, and take the threat of authoritarian minority rule seriously.

          That is what we are ultimately talking about, and the only way to prevent that is to stay engaged politically, and to hold our leaders to account whenever they trample on the rights of our fellow citizens or our democracy.

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            Exactly. The only thing you get with appeasement is vindicated bullies. justice must fall. or the US falls. if he goes this far without consequnces… then the next guy will go a little bit further and a little bit further. In fact, that’s pretty much the TLDR of Trump’s entire political career.

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      So we take the “Lock Him Up” approach and if anyone has a problem with that, we lock them up too.

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          Yea, because locking a guy up who is blatantly threatening witnesses and prosecutors in criminal cases against him- despite numerous warnings not to- is so tyrannical.

          If trump wasn’t a rich white ex president, he would have been arrested the night of, held until trial in prison and convicted with in a few months.

          The real tyranny here is the dual justice systems in which this idiot walks free despite trying to overturn the government and walking out with some of the nations secrets is treated like kid gloves with nothing happening for over 2 and a half years.

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            He would have been arrested the night of, held until trial in prison and convicted with in a few months.

            The really irritating part is this isn’t even conjecture. Over a 1000 convictions have already been secured in connection to January 6th, many of those people were held pending trial, and for fucks sake some of them are already out of prison before Trump has even had his day in court.

            Anybody who can’t see the hypocrisy in that, and identify how that implicitly constitutes a two tiered justice system is either brainwashed or so full of shit their eyes are brown. Facts matter, accountability matters, democracy is not a given, and it is about god damn time we start taking each of those things seriously.

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            That’s what gets me. It’s not like he was smart about it. It’s not like he tried to hide it. No, he does stuff in broad fucking daylight, openly admits it, and still gets off scot free! Not only that, but his cult of nutjob dumbasses worships him for it, all while acting like it’s tHe OtHeR SiDe commiting treason.

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              Interestingly… I looked it up on chat gpt.

              As of ‘21, the person with the most felonies appears to be richard Ramirez at 43 (murder, attempted murder, sexual assault and burglary)

              another guy initially pointed to- Richard McCoy - had 16 in DB cooper like hijackings.

              Granted it’s chatgpt… but trump truly is “uprecedendted” (In his scope of criminality.)

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                I strongly suggest you don’t treat a language learning model as a search engine or any kind of artificial intelligence. It is not.

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                  and that’s exactly why I flaggd it as coming from chat GPT. combing through the literally thousands of jurisdictions in the US to find the most felonious guy is… not something I have time for and a quick search turned up nothing about the actual subject. feel free to drop a more reliable source, though.

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                    Bing Chat does a proper search at least before it starts making claims. I use it a lot.

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                  Nice. I didn’t know that.

                  Search engines came up with “percentage of us population incarcersted” and “number of us felons”,

                  So, me, not wanting to do a doctoral thesis level of research used a tool get an answer. If you happen to have a better answer…. By all means…

                  But just uselessy pointing out a fact i already knew… (and the reason I flagged it as being the source…) …

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      Although sitting in a cell is my favored outcome for him for doing this, I would love it if the judge just barred him from using electronic devices. Can you imagine how pissed off he’d be?

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        Will that order include a dude following him around and slapping phones out of his hand? Because he is already not allowed to talk about the case and he just ignored it.

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          Did you ever see the old Disney cartoon, The Band Concert, where Donald Duck just keeps pulling flutes out of everywhere like up his sleeve and under his hat? You’re making me think that’s what Trump will do. Hide phones everywhere so he can constantly sneak onto TruthSocial. In his socks, in his underwear, under his MAGA cap…

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            That is literally what he does. The classified document case revealed that he rarely uses his own phone, he just ask whatever employee he is next to to borrow theirs.