Israel Bombs World Heritage Site in Lebanon, Threatens Major Hospital
www.democracynow.org
Israel is escalating its bombardment of Lebanon, leveling numerous buildings, including the offices of Lebanese news station Al Mayadeen. The Israeli military has also attacked the ancient city of Tyre, a UNESCO-designated World Heritage Site, and killed three Lebanese soldiers in a strike in southern Lebanon, all while continuing to defy international calls for a ceasefire. “What we’re seeing is a complete degeneration into a war that has no rules, that respects no international conventions. There’s one side in this war that has complete impunity,” says Lebanese sociologist Rima Majed in Beirut. “Israel is targeting civilians in most cases. … This is just terrorism.”
  • ChocoboRocket@lemmy.worldEnglish
    74·
    1 month ago

    This will blow back way harder on Israel than America.

    Ignoring all politics, logistically this war is a rounding error in the Pentagon’s budget. America can and often does absolutely anything it wants to anyone at any point in time - and the only thing stopping it is how it feels about a subject at any given moment.

    Israel is tiny and surrounded by enemies who they are pissing off.

    For the record I am entirely opposed to Israel committing genocide and America funding it.

    • Albbi@lemmy.caEnglish
      49·
      1 month ago

      For the record I am entirely opposed to Israel committing genocide and America funding it.

      What a weird and sad thing thing to have to specify.

    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.comEnglish
      43·
      1 month ago

      and America funding it.

      And absolutely gaslighting anyone who calls anyone out for it.

      I’m really sick of the whole “criticism of Israel is antisemitism” rhetoric. NO IT ISN’T. And pushing this rhetoric harder isn’t going to make me support them either. If anything, I’m going to see it as an increasing threat to my First Amendment right to free speech.

      My criticism of the Chinese government is not hateful towards the Chinese Americans in my community. It’s also not hateful towards the Chinese people living in China or anywhere else in the world. It’s a criticism of the leadership, which is fair game. Ditto for criticism of Iran, Russia, or any other nation I can think of.

      But criticize the Israeli government and suddenly it’s a problem. There’s less pushback for criticizing the U.S. government!

      • SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        14·
        1 month ago

        I’m really sick of the whole “criticism of Israel is antisemitism” rhetoric.

        It’s just playing dirty. Israel, much like modern conservative politicians, doesn’t care about how it achieves its goals. World War II has much of the western world hypersensitive to antisemitism, so conflating criticism of the Israeli government with antisemitism has been an easy way to stifle discourse.

      • IcePee@lemmy.beru.coEnglish
        4·
        1 month ago

        Criticising Israel can be antisemitic. Just check out the IHRA definition of antisemitism . Basically you can’t say that:

        • Israel is a racist endeavour
        • Comparing Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
        • Say that they use murder (especially of Christians) for ritual purposes.
    • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      1 month ago

      Yeah I’m not sure people realize how bad this is for long term American interests in the area. The Saudis and the Iranians are actually talking to each other again.

    • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      1 month ago

      This will blow back way harder on Israel than America.

      I dont think the US will walk away from this free of any consequences at all. The chickens will come home to roost. You dont kill that many people and leave that many affected victims and just saunter off into the sunset with no consequences whatsoever.

      • OutlierBlue@lemmy.caEnglish
        14·
        1 month ago

        But I was told terrorists hate America because of their freedom. Are you saying it was really their foreign policy this whole time?

      • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
        3·
        1 month ago

        The only real chance the US had to not get caught up in the quagmire would have been to unload a battalion or three of marines and go Hamas-hunting themselves, keeping an eye on the IDF. Make sure humanitarian aid arrives. Ignore the Israeli government where necessary (after all Gaza isn’t Israel) in favour of re-iterating that you’re Israel’s friend and simply taking some load off their plate, make sure to work with Israeli lefties when it comes to pretty much everything humanitarian on the ground, or in media.

        But that would’ve necessitated more wherewithal and understanding of Israel than the US could’ve ever hoped to muster.

  • masterofn001@lemmy.caEnglish
    50·
    1 month ago

    North Americans, don’t be shocked when the shit starts hitting your neighborhood, schools, homes, daycares, and hospitals.

    Whether North Korea, or Venezuela, or Russia, etc, or a newly radicalized individual.

    We have let the world know there are no rules and we are now fair game for any nation that feels like it.

    And we have no right to complain when they do.

    • LostMyRedditLogin@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      1 month ago

      9/11 happened because of US involvement with Israel. Bin Laden clearly listed his grievances with the US, which the media purposely ignored. I’ve been expecting another terrorist attack because we never learn. America has to do everything the hard way regarding foreign policy. Huge sigh.

      • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        1 month ago

        “They hate us for our freedoms” was such a ridiculously stupid thing for Bush to say, but people lapped it up and just assumed it was truth. Not the USA’s most impressive moment.

    • AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      1 month ago

      We have let the world know there are no rules

      Quite the opposite. The US is demonstrating that it is above any international law and will do what it wants regardless of any standing agreements. It’s demonstrating that the only rules that matter are the ones it makes. Israel is our dog on our leash and we’re letting it bite someone. But if anyone hurts our dog, we’ll go full John Wick on their country. That’s why Israel bombs schools and hospitals without warning and Iran gives a few days notice before they attack.

    • goferking0@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      16·
      1 month ago

      What are they gonna do, send another set of jumbo jets into skyscrapers?

      Or another orange idiot.

      Or more republicans.

      Good god we’re fucked

    • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      1 month ago

      It’s already happening. People are shooting up Jewish schools and places of worship in response.

      • sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        1 month ago

        Theres far far far more anti muslim violence than anti jewish. ADL has been counting people saying mean things online as a spike in anti semitic violence. Words are not violence. Holding a sign objecting to Israeli actions are not violence. And objecting to Israel is not anti semitic.