The US seems to turn red. While I am living in Europe I am already wondering where I should go. Is there somewhere in this world where being LGBTQ is not a constant battle and where it will likely stay that way? Because typically the insanity coming from the US swaps over to EU and many states here are already on their way to fascism on their own.

  • Smorty [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    21 days ago

    Could you maybe share in which area in the EU where you live? Obviously not the specific location, the general area might be helpful.

    I feel that there are certainly countries in the EU where being queer is perfectly fine. (I’m from Germany, so ye)

    • Mora@pawb.socialOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      21 days ago

      I am from Germany as well. And I agree right now it is okay. But we are on a downwards trend (just this week a queer bar has been set ablaze). And when I look towards the next election I fear that this downward trend could go get even worse.

      • Smorty [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        21 days ago

        Right, I kinda forgot that.

        AFD and CDU really are a thing, arent’t they.

        But I think that the community here is too strong to back down now. Germany has been very open and encouraging towards queer people. I’m assuming that most of the voters for these parties are older, but I have also heard that many youthy people voted for AFD, which is still very surprising to me. I am genuinely interested what they see in these parties. Or more generally: What about rightish parties is appealing? Is it just aw yeah, punk, we go against the grain! or something else?

        The Netherlands are also an interesting place for me, they seem to be a rather social country and I like the way they handle energy and piracy.

        • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          edit-2
          21 days ago

          AFD and CDU really are a thing, arent’t they.

          BSW is also hostile to LGBT+ - they’re not as open about it, but e.g. the issue with the rainbow flag in Neubrandenburg shows they’re certainly no friend of the queer community.

          • Smorty [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            21 days ago

            Right, I also completely forgot BSW exists… But I guess it makes sense that they’d be hostile towards queer people, since old people vote for em and that’s probably what most BSW voters would like to happen

        • LwL@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          20 days ago

          A big factor is probably that the AfD has an actual large tiktok presence, and if that’s where all the zoomers are, many are bound to fall into that echo chamber. It’s the same thing people see in assholes like Andrew Tate.

          I saw some AfD tiktok clip that literally said “Echte Männer sind rechts. Echte Männer wählen AfD.” Felt like it should’ve been a parody. But apparently that’s effective.

          I really do think that actually making organic seeming tiktok content (as opposed to obviously awkward content where the politician barely gets whats going on) would help against the radicalization of the youth.

    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      21 days ago

      Some other info that would make it easier to help as well: OP, are you looking for accessible gender affirming care and name changes, etc? Or is it about feeling safe within the community as an openly/visibly queer person?

      • Mora@pawb.socialOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        21 days ago

        It is mostly about feeling safe with my chosen family and being able to actually plan a life. As of now I see basically no point in planning any part of my future as it feels as if any plan I could make could be disrupted at any moment.

        I know this is a hard ask, since no one can see into the future. It is essentially a question that should not exist. Where do I go and can actually live 50-60 years without the fear of getting killed by an angry mob at some point? Where do I go where this question is not part of the equation?

        Ideally that country also should still exist, as climate change will swallow some countries as well.

        • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          21 days ago

          In that case, it’s less about the country, and more about how large and diverse the specific city is. I live in Austria, which is super conservative and Catholic, but Vienna is, as far as I can tell, a great place for what you described. I’m sure the same exists within many other countries as well.