The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!

In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.

In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.

In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!

In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.

In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.

And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.

  • Bremmy@lemmy.ml
    87·
    21 days ago

    The 14th amendment should have been the end of Trump, period. But Democrats don’t want to look partisan and now look where we are.

    • randon31415@lemmy.world
      33·
      21 days ago

      I seen to remember a bunch of 14th amendment lawsuits that got shut down by SCOTUS a few days before primaries started.

      • Bremmy@lemmy.ml
        17·
        21 days ago

        Yeah, that’s why Obama should have packed SCOTUS, fuck the optics and just do what’s right. We saw this coming and still Democrats assumed terrible people won’t be terrible given the chance

        • inv3r510n@lemmy.worldOP
          11·
          21 days ago

          I hate Obama but nobody not even my cynical self saw things going this blatantly corrupt.

          If he packed the court back then it could of sparked a civil war.

          • Bremmy@lemmy.ml
            8·
            21 days ago

            Agreed, but because he didn’t, now we have this outcome. It would have been worth risking a civil war to ensure America stays a democracy. The military was always on the left side, anyway

            • inv3r510n@lemmy.worldOP
              5·
              21 days ago

              And when inevitably the other side wins an election, what are they going to do but continue to pack the court? It’s not a good strategy.

              • Bremmy@lemmy.ml
                2·
                21 days ago

                True. But if Obama picked people, at least we would have had enough to offset the loons Trump put on

                  • Bremmy@lemmy.ml
                    4·
                    20 days ago

                    I’m saying if we had a majority before Trump installed his, then we wouldn’t be where we are. Woe wouldn’t have been overturned either. At least it would have been a big enough stopgap to ensure the 14th amendment would have been correctly followed

                    Plus, even if we had 100 justices, then so be it, we have 100 but at least we’d have the majority. It’s worth having a “childish” number of justices to prevent Trump

            • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3·
              21 days ago

              Not to mention: I will not be shocked if open civil war occurs at some point in the next few years. Trump’s bound to try to do something beyond the pale to a blue state at some point (CA, MA, NY, etc) - something that is flagrantly illegal, and basically an authoritarian power grab. The governor in question would then mobilize their state guard. Then you have civil war.

              • inv3r510n@lemmy.worldOP
                1·
                20 days ago

                I’m a former NYer from LI and I moved to vermont nearly a decade ago. I was recently back home for a couple months to help my mother out with a health issue. It was divided and scary when I left in 2015…. It’s even worse now.

                I’m a visibly queer woman who is often confused for a man (short hair, masc style, but face and body are still femme) and I was bullied my entire life for being queer in supposedly ‘liberal’ NY, to the point that in 2013 during the trans bathroom bill madness in I think NC I and another friend (also a masc queer woman) were assaulted in the woman’s bathroom at a restaurant on LI for being perceived as trans. We both own vaginas and were minding our business using the bathroom like any other woman…

                I think somewhere like LI NY is ripe for a troubles-style civil war. You have very boisterous angry people, extremely insane cost of living, absolute utter hatred of minorities while living right along side them. FYI if you didn’t know yaphank NY was the headquarters of the kkk and the American Nazi party in the 30s.