If it makes you feel better, everything was already ruined.
The best case scenario was continued crony capitalist dystopic hellscape with the poor’s lives being burned up in subservient subsistence to our modern pharoah oligarch class… but you know with identity affirming ribbons and pins and stuff.
Now we get all the oligarch stuff with… concentration camps and death squads and stuff.
Either way, the owners win, they don’t care. Their mistresses will always have abortion on tap, their nepo children will always have their identities affirmed, elections are simply for the poors to either inflict supplimental cruelty on other poors or not to give us the illusion of choice and keep us hating one another instead of looking up at our owners.
This country was ruined irreparably in the 1980s, a few Tuesdays ago was just a reminder of that reality.
Technically even the nordic nations have capitalism, they just have it straightjacketed/heavily regulated to benefit society. High taxes no one resents because they are educated to understand that everyone benefits from a society where everyone is educated to their potential and taken care of.
Allowing capital into governance as we did and do will always lead to the crony market capitalist economy capturing, straightjacketing, and exploiting society for private profit.
Campaigns should have always had public funding, with attempting to bribe, oh I’m sorry, “donate to” elected officials being treated with the same severity as first degree murder considering you want to change society to benefit only yourself.
Yes some countries do the equivalent of using a screwdriver to hold the demon core apart but that doesn’t mean that the natural forces at play aren’t extremely destructive.
I’m on your side, and believe society should assist its people from those most in need. I’m a democratic socialist, and would be open to communism if automated resource gathering like robotic agriculture became sufficiently of age.
That said, the Nordic models are the easiest sell to eventually get there, as there is hard data that they are the happiest societies on Earth reliably by a mile.
If you can’t sell the the idea that the point of a society is to maximize the wellbeing of its citizens, and the Nordic countries objectively do it best of all existing models going by the data, then there is just no reasoning our way out of our own self-imposed extinction.
There really isn’t a more powerful argument I’ve encountered with concrete data to get others to realize that “the free market” isn’t their friend and regulation and taxation is if you’re a regular member of a society that doesn’t have aspirations of global economic conquest.
You want to be happy? You want your neighbors to also be happy? You want your kids to be happy? You don’t like living around tons of miserable homeless people and want them to be happy and housed rather than dying in front of your apartment complex? Nordic model let’s fucking go.
Idealistically I’m an anarchist, but practically I agree with you too. If we reach that point everywhere I’ll keep pushing, or if the revolution is coming I’ll jump ship, but for all intents and purposes we’re close allies :)
It’s ruined for them too. The stuff they love is also doomed to fall apart; sooner than they think. Sooner than most people are willing to admit. Good luck to whatever life remains.
It’s ruined for their children and theirs, but you don’t become a 9 figure millionaire or billionaire by loving anyone else like your children, only yourself.
The 28 thousand 100-million-plus inaires on earth we all serve one way or another have no national allegiance, and will simply vacation from whatever temperate climate is left that accepts currency to the next until complete ecological collapse from their own fine work in 20-40 years.
Then yeah, they’ll retreat to their luxury bunker complexes and sip expensive whiskey under the world they destroyed, probably nonsensically blaming the poors they mercilessly exploited for ruining the planet as they’ll never self-reflect on their own avarice and sociopathy.
As I said, modern pharoahs, so of course they have decadent tombs at the ready.
All the nice things in the world won’t save them from themselves. When the collapse truly begins, and the walls start closing in, they’ll be feeling it. Narcissistic collapse writ large. There isn’t an amount of money large enough to save them from the simple fact that they are as human as the rest of us. And those bunkers will be overthrown, or turned into tombs.
I want them to be the last survivors of a dead world. It’s what they deserve. Kings of nothing. Behold my works ye mighty and despair!
If it makes you feel better, everything was already ruined.
The best case scenario was continued crony capitalist dystopic hellscape with the poor’s lives being burned up in subservient subsistence to our modern pharoah oligarch class… but you know with identity affirming ribbons and pins and stuff.
Now we get all the oligarch stuff with… concentration camps and death squads and stuff.
Either way, the owners win, they don’t care. Their mistresses will always have abortion on tap, their nepo children will always have their identities affirmed, elections are simply for the poors to either inflict supplimental cruelty on other poors or not to give us the illusion of choice and keep us hating one another instead of looking up at our owners.
This country was ruined irreparably in the 1980s, a few Tuesdays ago was just a reminder of that reality.
“crony capitalism” implies that there’s a version of capitalism which doesn’t lead to oligarchy.
Technically even the nordic nations have capitalism, they just have it straightjacketed/heavily regulated to benefit society. High taxes no one resents because they are educated to understand that everyone benefits from a society where everyone is educated to their potential and taken care of.
Allowing capital into governance as we did and do will always lead to the crony market capitalist economy capturing, straightjacketing, and exploiting society for private profit.
Campaigns should have always had public funding, with attempting to bribe, oh I’m sorry, “donate to” elected officials being treated with the same severity as first degree murder considering you want to change society to benefit only yourself.
But that ship has sailed.
Yes some countries do the equivalent of using a screwdriver to hold the demon core apart but that doesn’t mean that the natural forces at play aren’t extremely destructive.
Everyone’s arm gets tired eventually.
I’m on your side, and believe society should assist its people from those most in need. I’m a democratic socialist, and would be open to communism if automated resource gathering like robotic agriculture became sufficiently of age.
That said, the Nordic models are the easiest sell to eventually get there, as there is hard data that they are the happiest societies on Earth reliably by a mile.
If you can’t sell the the idea that the point of a society is to maximize the wellbeing of its citizens, and the Nordic countries objectively do it best of all existing models going by the data, then there is just no reasoning our way out of our own self-imposed extinction.
There really isn’t a more powerful argument I’ve encountered with concrete data to get others to realize that “the free market” isn’t their friend and regulation and taxation is if you’re a regular member of a society that doesn’t have aspirations of global economic conquest.
You want to be happy? You want your neighbors to also be happy? You want your kids to be happy? You don’t like living around tons of miserable homeless people and want them to be happy and housed rather than dying in front of your apartment complex? Nordic model let’s fucking go.
Idealistically I’m an anarchist, but practically I agree with you too. If we reach that point everywhere I’ll keep pushing, or if the revolution is coming I’ll jump ship, but for all intents and purposes we’re close allies :)
It’s ruined for them too. The stuff they love is also doomed to fall apart; sooner than they think. Sooner than most people are willing to admit. Good luck to whatever life remains.
It’s ruined for their children and theirs, but you don’t become a 9 figure millionaire or billionaire by loving anyone else like your children, only yourself.
The 28 thousand 100-million-plus inaires on earth we all serve one way or another have no national allegiance, and will simply vacation from whatever temperate climate is left that accepts currency to the next until complete ecological collapse from their own fine work in 20-40 years.
Then yeah, they’ll retreat to their luxury bunker complexes and sip expensive whiskey under the world they destroyed, probably nonsensically blaming the poors they mercilessly exploited for ruining the planet as they’ll never self-reflect on their own avarice and sociopathy.
As I said, modern pharoahs, so of course they have decadent tombs at the ready.
All the nice things in the world won’t save them from themselves. When the collapse truly begins, and the walls start closing in, they’ll be feeling it. Narcissistic collapse writ large. There isn’t an amount of money large enough to save them from the simple fact that they are as human as the rest of us. And those bunkers will be overthrown, or turned into tombs.
I want them to be the last survivors of a dead world. It’s what they deserve. Kings of nothing. Behold my works ye mighty and despair!