• PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world
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    17 days ago

    He said that stuff because he’s a shithead with no respect for this country, and anyone who says differently is a liar. You should cut people like that out of your life if you can.

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      17 days ago

      Ignoring them and making it so the only people trump voters talk to is other trump voters won’t help anything at all.

      It’s not your responsibility, so don’t feel like you have to personally…

      But for fucks sake can people stop trying to convince everyone else not to try?

      The smug Hillary shit didn’t work when she did it. Biden got elected despite that attitude because Trump was in office, and it didn’t work for Kamala either.

      It’s a shit strategy that’s only effective in getting us shit presidents.

      So go somewhere and really check out if that’s your choice, but what in the hell do you think it will accomplish spending your time telling people not to try?

      What logic have you gone thru that you think this is productive?

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        Ignoring them and making it so the only people trump voters talk to is other trump voters won’t help anything at all.

        I spent the last 8 years or so trying to reprogram the human formerly known as my father. To reinforce that he was in the wrong my mother moved out after Jan 6th. I have not spoken with him since the day after Election Day and he was celebrating the win listening to the Woodie Guthrie anti-fascist protest music I had recently gotten him for his birthday.

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          17 days ago

          If someone gets their head cut off, triage likely won’t help anything…

          That doesn’t mean if someone cuts their hand cut off, you shrug and say they’re as good as dead already.

          Things are rarely binary, so saying a specific person is unsavable never means give up on every patient.

          A big part of triage is evaluating if you can save a specific person, or if they’re gone and helping someone else would be more beneficial overall.

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        17 days ago

        You can win elections without converting Republicans. It’s just as true for the prototypical “economically anxious” white working class dudes that leftists chase as it is for the “principled” Republicans the centrists are infatuated with.

        Build a party by growing it among the apolitical and juicing turnout among your unlikely voters, not figuring out which vulnerable groups should be thrown under the bus for people who are ideologically aligned with your opponents. Build something there and maybe some of those oh so important Republican voters will come around, but it’s time for people to wake up and stop pretending Republican voters are the key to winning elections.